Berry's 124 gr. hbfp-tp load data with cfe pistol

[Prowler53]

I do not understand why there is over 20 posts on this? Hodgdon has the data for your bullet withe CFE powder?? (yes they use a RN TP(thick Plate) You say you have the FLAT Nose Which will result in a slightly different COAL (usually flat nose are shorter)

Other than that if you look at data sat from Western powders you can compare the "HB" 124 bullet to other bullets of the same weight. To me the start and max loads differences(between bullets) are so small I really do not think it is worth getting a headache over.

Use the start load and go for it.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/WPHandloading-Guide-7.0-Web-REV.pdf

Thank you! The Western Powders guide makes me feel a whole lot better. I didn't want to open a can of worms with this thread, but I would rather be safe than just assume where I should start without some kind of guide. I like the fact that They have a few Berry's Bullets listed to compare. I appreciate all the comments in this thread. For me (a fairly new reloader) it can be difficult to understand all the variables, and how they come into play regarding load data that is available, but not quite the same as what you're using. I'm learning as I go

 

[vaalpens]

I really thought I tested more loads using the Berry's 124gr HBFPTP bullet and CFE Pistol, but my records show I tested them before I had a chrono. This is the only load I tested with a chrono just to get some numbers for my records. It wasn't tested for accuracy though. I have always loaded this bullet with a COL of 1.060" and it has worked well in my SIG SP2022. Hopefully this data will provide some additional data points to help you make a decision.

9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
Case: WIN
COL: 1.060"
Berrys, 124gr, HBFPTP, CFEpistol, 5.1gr, CCI500
Average: 1049
ES: 24
SD: 10
Force: 303
PF: 130
Velocities: 1064, 1050, 1040, 1052, 1040
Grouping @ N/A
Test Date: 12/28/2015

 

[Prowler53]

Thanks for that Vaalpens!

 

[Prowler53]

I'm using 5.2 gr CFE @ 1.135 OAL for my RN's. I just did a plunk test with the Hollow Base Round Nose TP with my Springfield XD Mod 2. Needed to reduce OAL for that bullet to 1.0525.
It seems I had to reduce the OAL quite a bit for it to pass compared to the RN's @ 1.135. Is that a typical drop in OAL from round nose to FP?
Hodgdon data shows 4.9 grain Min - 5.5 grain Max using OAL of 1.150. If I'm using OAL of 1.0525 how much much do I need to reduce powder load?
Did anyone ever find that this to be confusing? LOL BTW....Thanks for everyone who is helping me along!

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I made an error when I posted this..."I just did a plunk test with the Hollow Base Round Nose TP" Should read Hollow Base Flat Point TP"
Anyway....I think I have it all worked out and planning on shooting a few test rounds this weekend.

 

[Cooter Boolit]

I ran for some bullets today and they were out of my usual Berry's 124 RN, so I grabbed a box of Berry's 124 gr. hbfp-tp. I've never used these or anything similar as of yet. I could not find any load data in my manuals for this type of bullet using CFE pistol. Anyone using these that could give me somewhere to start?

I never had any luck with berry`s hollow base bullets. But i do load the Berry`s 124gr RN, i load CFE-Pistol @ 4.9gr, OAL 1.150
I`m getting superb accuracy out of every 9mm i own with this load. (Glock`s - M&P`s - Sig`s) Mild recoil as well.