Best budget AR

C-grunt said:
Lined barrels are more reliable and corrosion resistant. One of the reasons why the original M16 had issues in early Vietnam was the military decided to remove the chrome lining. There is a lot of debate about chrome lining vs nitride but they are both good options and much better than a non lined barrel.

The Ruger uses some non standard parts for whatever reason on their rifles. Part of the appeal of the AR15 is it's aftermarket options. Every piece can be replaced and there are literally hundreds of options out there to replace them with. It would be like a trigger company making a Remington 700 trigger that doesnt fit any of the existing stocks for the Remington 700 and having no real reason why it was made like that.
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Is that all Ruger rifles?
 
Axis II said:
The Springfield i looked at was very tight and i was told its due to price/quality thats why i was concerned
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Upper and lower fitment has nothing to do with the quality of an AR15. Some high end companies will hand match the upper and lower to fit perfect, but that's completely an aesthetics type of thing.

If it's something that bothers you I would look at several models of the same rifle and find one that you are happy with. I understand the want of a tight fit, but that is not even in consideration for me when Im choosing an AR15 as it has zero indication on how the rifle will perform.
 
blackd24 said:
You should spend $600 max on the rifle and get either iron sights & ammo or a red dot/ 1x prism. You can always add an upgraded trigger down the road for $100.
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Yea, the cost of the gun is simply the cost of the gun, and usually by the time you get all the other bits on it that you want, and even if its still pretty basic stuff, you usually end up having about a grand in the "bargain" gun depending on what you add. A decent red dot can cost more than the gun.

As far as triggers go, Ive always preferred to just learn to shoot the stock triggers (with all guns, not just the AR's) instead of the normally spendy aftermarket triggers so often touted. They just limit you shooting wise, and drain your wallet unnecessarily.

In the long run, youll be a lot better off and a lot less trigger-phobic too. Its just a matter of getting your muscle tone up to where it should be anyway and getting your brain wired to shoot with them, which isnt a big deal. Once youre comfortable with that, you can shoot pretty much anything without issue or complaint.

If you should happen to get an "extra crunchy" AR trigger, a little Mothers or similar on the sear and some repeated "snapping" while watching TV will clean that up pretty quick. Doesnt change or hurt anything, other than get rid of the crunch.

I did just that on a trigger that came with a cheap parts kit, and just doing that, it ended up being a cleaner trigger than the $70 low end Geissele trigger I bought because I kept hearing they were so great and I really needed to try one. I did the same thing after that to the Geisselle, and I really cant tell them apart now. Took less time, but the result was the same.
 
I am not much on AR rifles but bought an early S&W M&P 15 OR to hunt coyotes with. It was not a budget gun then and they still are not. Replacing the handgrip with a free float tube and some experimenting with handloads gave me a 3/4 minute of angle rifle. Coyote hunting isn't exactly a heavy duty test of a gun but I have never had one problem with this rifle. If I am correct the S&W Sport is the same quality with less features for less dollars. There are less expensive AR's available but I have no experience with them.
 
C-grunt said:
Upper and lower fitment has nothing to do with the quality of an AR15. Some high end companies will hand match the upper and lower to fit perfect, but that's completely an aesthetics type of thing.
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^^^
Yep! Just aesthetics. My billet Seekins build doesn't rattle, provided you tighten the nylon screw ;)
 
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C-grunt said:
Upper and lower fitment has nothing to do with the quality of an AR15. Some high end companies will hand match the upper and lower to fit perfect, but that's completely an aesthetics type of thing.

If it's something that bothers you I would look at several models of the same rifle and find one that you are happy with. I understand the want of a tight fit, but that is not even in consideration for me when Im choosing an AR15 as it has zero indication on how the rifle will perform.
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Just sounds broken to me lol
 
In service 1970’s every M-16 I handeledrattled and jammed every 3rd round. They tell me they are better now but I only give one chance to kill me and they exceeded their limit.
 
Keep an eye on sales…I recently bought an Anderson AR 15 in 5.56 and a Radical RF-15 in 7.62 x 39 for $400 each. Lots of decent entry-level AR’s out there!
 
C-grunt said:
The rifle you looked at could be out of spec. Wouldn't be the first time.
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There must have been something wrong with this one because i could literally wiggle the upper side to side in the receiver. That was an M&P sport
 
My sport has enough play for easy enough take down. Same for my sport 'll. Now what difference does it make to someone who can't or won't buy a Rock River or better. What difference would it make to a sport shooter.
 
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