Best Trigger in a Striker Fired Pistol?

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I realize I'll never find a crisp 4 or 5 lb single action trigger in a striker fired weapon, but what do you think?

Actually I believe the Kahrs may be the best. My PM9 has a nice smooth and light trigger.

Thanks for your comments.
 
What about a Glock with a 3.5lb trigger? That seems to be a relatively common modification.
 
have you looked at a XDm or M&P?
Glock's with a 3.5# connector will get you about 4.5#

i was just playing with my Lyman trigger gauge and my 3 striker guns.
here's what i got after a 10 pull average:

Glock (Ti Striker, Ti safety plunger and modified springs) 3lbs 9.3oz
XDm (w/Springer trigger kit and reduced power springs) 4lbs 0.2oz
M&P 9 Pro (stock) - 4lbs 2.8oz
 
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Quack,

I would be very interested in your observations and input on the Springer kit for the XD. I have a XD Tactical .45 on the way and I'm about 90% sure I'm going with the Springer kit because of the positives I have read.

Some say the Springer kit comes close to making the XD feel like a "real" trigger, not a striker.
 
the Springer trigger feels a lot better than stock. no more long take-up and reset.
I also replaced the striker and plunger springs to reduced power springs.

hoping my friend with a stock XDm meets me at the range so we can shoot them side by side.
 
By their nature, striker fired pistols just don't have the good trigger pulls that hammer guns do. The reason is simple. In the hammer gun, the hammer and the sear are in the same part, the frame, and maintain a fixed relationship. But in a striker gun, the striker and sear are in different parts, the frame and the slide.

The sear system HAS to take into consideration the play between frame and slide, and that prevents an optimal sear engagement. Otherwise, as the slide-frame interface wears, or for some reason becomes looser, the gun can misfire or go full auto.

Jim
 
My favorite by far is the HK P7. It is unlike any striker trigger I've ever used. It's very light, very crisp, almost no take-up. Some describe it as almost 1911 like.
 
All Glocks "sproing" regardless of pull weight due to the design of the trigger spring.

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Stock Glock trigger spring is on the top left. It's a miniature garage door spring.:p It doesn't really matter what weight connector you put between a spring, when it is hooked up like this, and the trigger. It's just not ever going to be precise feeling compared to the nearly infinitely tuneable 1911 trigger.

Add a plastic bow like the NY trigger module in the other frames of the pic and things get extra sproingy.
 
In the most technical sense, the P7 is probably the best since its a true single action trigger.

Kahrs have nice triggers ... like a well tuned J Frame DA trigger.


As for polymer striker fired "Glock like" guns, my Steyr S40 is pretty doggone good ... better than any other polymer striker fired gun I've ever shot (especially Glocks ... even with 3.5lb connectors).
 
If you ask me, you already have the best trigger on the market on your Kahr.
It is not "crisp" as it is not single action, but for a double action trigger it is light, smooth ,and very controllable.

I am a tinkerer. I have always taken apart any gun I bought, new or used, and "cleaned up" a bit to make them a little smoother. Not on my Kahr. (it was used, so already broken in) It was pefect as I got it. No improvements necessary or desired.
 
M&P without the magazine disconnect has a pretty good trigger, crisp break and short take up. It's the only Striker I can 2-stage.
 
Do you know how the stock Glock trigger spring works?

Yes, but more importantly, I know first hand how it feels, even with a 3.5# connector. The Glock trigger is more famous for its short and distinct reset than for its "legendary feel," because no sane person says that the Glock trigger feels world class.
 
I realize I'll never find a crisp 4 or 5 lb single action trigger in a striker fired weapon, but what do you think?

I think you need to look around some more.

I have a couple XD's that have been worked on and now have a better trigger than most 1911's.

I also have a couple M&P's that rival the best 1911 trigger and actually beat it in reset distance.

I had my M&P work done by www.accurate-iron.com and my XD's done by Canyon Creek Custom.

My Glock has a better than normal trigger, but it's far behind the XD and M&P
 
I was playing around this morning:

1 - Glock G24 (Ti Striker, Ti safety plunger 3.5# connector and modified springs) 3lbs 9.3oz
(no longer have the other Glocks.)
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2 - XDm (w/Springer trigger kit and reduced power springs) 4lbs 0.2oz
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3 - M&P 9 Pro (stock) - 4lbs 2.8oz
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Trigger Travel - Total travel - take-up - reset
XDm (w/ Springer kit) .33" - .165" - .165"
Glock (modified) .40" - .23" - .17"
M&P 9 Pro (stock) .55" - .34" - .21"

Trigger feel
1 - Glock (modified)
2 - M&P 9 Pro (Stock)
3 - XDm (Springer trigger kit)


Considering what the cost of the gun and any additional parts added, I would place the M&P Pro at the top of the list for the best out of the box polymer (of the 3 i have)

YMMV.
 
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I'd have to say my K9 has the best trigger of all the striker fired pistols I have, but the Steyr M40 is also quite nice (much nicer than my G19 IMO).
 
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