Biden announces his "moderate" plan for "assault weapons"

[AlexanderA]

In advance of the Giffords gun forum in Las Vegas, Joe Biden has announced his gun plan, which he touts as more "moderate" than those of his rivals.

The highlight of the plan is that owners of "assault weapons" would be given a choice: either turn in their guns (for compensation) OR register them under the National Firearms Act.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-assault-weapons-gun-policy_n_5d942938e4b0e9e76054d9c3

The main reason this won't fly is that, thanks to Beto O'Rourke's honesty, everybody now knows that registration is the precursor to confiscation. Therefore you would get a very low rate of compliance.

Beyond that, NFA registration is simply impractical. The number of AR-15's, etc., is exponentially greater than those of machine guns, SBR's, etc. You would need an exponential increase in ATF staffing. And approvals for transfers would take years. This would effectively freeze the guns with their current owners. (That's assuming that there was compliance.) Sen. Feinstein considered such a plan in 2013, and rejected it.

 

[Virginia Jim]

Creepy Uncle Joe,
Go peddle that crap in The Ukraine.

 

[troy fairweather]

Hopes and dreams off a insane man.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

In advance of the Giffords gun forum in Las Vegas, Joe Biden has announced his gun plan, which he touts as more "moderate" than those of his rivals.

The highlight of the plan is that owners of "assault weapons" would be given a choice: either turn in their guns (for compensation) OR register them under the National Firearms Act.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-assault-weapons-gun-policy_n_5d942938e4b0e9e76054d9c3

The main reason this won't fly is that, thanks to Beto O'Rourke's honesty, everybody now knows that registration is the precursor to confiscation. Therefore you would get a very low rate of compliance.

Beyond that, NFA registration is simply impractical. The number of AR-15's, etc., is exponentially greater than those of machine guns, SBR's, etc. You would need an exponential increase in ATF staffing. And approvals for transfers would take years. This would effectively freeze the guns with their current owners. (That's assuming that there was compliance.) Sen. Feinstein considered such a plan in 2013, and rejected it.

Biden can tout whatever he wants, this is not moderate in any way and has nothing to do with assault weapons which AR15's are not. It is an infringement on the RTKBA and an increase in the size and power of government.
Anyone so ignorant as to not understand the purpose of registration prior to O'Rourke's statements probably never will.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

This would accomplish nothing towards limiting or stopping gun violence. All it does is create a hassle for law abiding owners, and yes, it would be a door way to eventual confiscation.

Man there have been a lot of these threads lately. Feels kind of exhausting.

 

[DougW]

Robert Francis can come and take it if he wants. Will not go over too well in Texas!

 

[TomJ]

This from the man who's idea of defending your home is standing on your front porch and firing a couple of rounds from your shotgun in the air. I'm pretty sure my neighbors would object to that.

The Dems have a problem. For years they denied wanting to do away with private gun ownership. The cat's out of the bag as they've announced that's their intention. If they backpedal they lose their base. If they stay with that goal they lose a significant part of the country. Biden's trying to play both sides.

 

[GEM]

Canada had great luck with their program. Biden should google that on his record player.

 

[fireside44]

If you don't comply with Joe's gun registration schemes he will beat you like a drum and bring you down like he did now legendary gangster Corn Pop back in his only white lifeguard days. Where did you come from where did you go where did you come from clottin' eyed joe!

 

[Deanimator]

There's a special exemption for "assault weapons" made in Ukraine... and China.

 

[GEM]

There's a special exemption for "assault weapons" made in Ukraine... and China.

Trump's plan will exempt the ARs from Russia, that are now under production.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/10/02/russian-orsis-ar15j/

 

[Tommygunn]

Trump's plan will exempt the ARs from Russia, that are now under production.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/10/02/russian-orsis-ar15j/

Huh? ! I didn't know Russia made AR-15s. I didn't even know the citizens ----er, subjects, were allowed semiauto weapons like that. If I'd known they were, I'd have guessed AK style rifles.


Hmmmm.... they're getting theirs while our politicians prattle about taking ours.

 

[Tom-R2]

There's a special exemption for "assault weapons" made in Ukraine... and China.

You beat me to it.

 

[jmorris]

The main reason this won't fly is that, thanks to Beto O'Rourke's honesty, everybody now knows that registration is the precursor to confiscation. Therefore you would get a very low rate of compliance.

That’s even better for them.

If you didn’t register a machinegun when you could, that just makes you a felon now and they can take away all of your firearms.

The same would be the same for any future laws. Declare, destroy or become a criminal, simple.

 

[SharpDog]

Joe Biden: Owners Should Be Liable if Guns ‘Not Under Lock and Key’:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...owners-should-liable-guns-not-under-lock-key/

 

[BigBore44]

The dems really shot themselves in the foot with the AR-15.

 

[mayorgonzo]

There's a special exemption for "assault weapons" made in Ukraine... and China.

I think Kamala Harris has a bill to address those too.

 

[danez71]

In advance of the Giffords gun forum in Las Vegas, Joe Biden has announced his gun plan, which he touts as more "moderate" than those of his rivals.

The highlight of the plan is that owners of "assault weapons" would be given a choice: either turn in their guns (for compensation) OR register them under the National Firearms Act.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-assault-weapons-gun-policy_n_5d942938e4b0e9e76054d9c3

The main reason this won't fly is that, thanks to Beto O'Rourke's honesty, everybody now knows that registration is the precursor to confiscation. Therefore you would get a very low rate of compliance.

Beyond that, NFA registration is simply impractical. The number of AR-15's, etc., is exponentially greater than those of machine guns, SBR's, etc. You would need an exponential increase in ATF staffing. And approvals for transfers would take years. This would effectively freeze the guns with their current owners. (That's assuming that there was compliance.) Sen. Feinstein considered such a plan in 2013, and rejected it.

That's more or less what CA just did.

It wasn't impractical at all. It was simple*.

They built a website and told people to do it online or become felons.

* The Web site crashed numerous times and there was/is litigation about that.

Simple fix to that is to have faceplant/foogle/flamamazon build the website.


I agree with you on "The main reason this won't fly is that, thanks to Beto O'Rourke's honesty, ..."

 

[DocRock]

Comply with Uncle Joe, or it's off to Eastern Ukraine for "re-education."

 

[FL-NC]

Slow joe and beta already let the cat out of the bag regarding their true zero-tolerance agenda. No one is taking either of them seriously. The ex VP has much bigger fish to fry than trying to gain traction with such nonsense.

 

[22-rimfire]

I think Joe should just stick to his double barreled shotguns shooting off the porch to scare people/

 

[theotherwaldo]

So I guess that Bug-Eyed Joe's security team is armed solely with double-barreled shotguns loaded with bird shot?

 

[JONWILL]

So I guess that Bug-Eyed Joe's security team is armed solely with double-barreled shotguns loaded with bird shot?

No. They carry the best. The shotguns will be for us peasants

 

[Browning]

That’s even better for them.

If you didn’t register a machinegun when you could, that just makes you a felon now and they can take away all of your firearms.

The same would be the same for any future laws. Declare, destroy or become a criminal, simple.

Fight?

 

[theotherwaldo]

Fight?

If you fight after this point, you are fighting as a criminal... and anyone that tries to assist you in any way will also be a criminal in the eyes of the "Good People".