Bill seeks to allow Wyoming hunters to carry automatic weapons

[Zundfolge]

It also sounds a bit inconsistent for wardens to oppose silencers because poachers could get more sneaky, while seeking to prevent silent archers from carrying noisemakers for fear of poaching.

Yep ... the Emperor has no clothes.

 

[LAR-15]

If you limit it to handguns, I have no problems.

But rifles and shotguns during bow season for elk is just asking for elk poaching.

As for legalizing automatics in your car or camp, fine.

 

[jlbraun]

"could lead to"

Those are the three most dangerous words in a legislator's vocabulary.

 

[rangermonroe]

I carry a handgun with me while hunting here in GA for snakes and such.

Not for a minute do I envision myself drawing and cracking off a shot at a moccasin before I can be struck, or faster than I can step out of the way.

I have heard tell of folks being chased up trees by hogs, and I do believe that 10 rounds of 22 HPs would convince the swine to depart the area.

I mostly carry my HG for personal defense against 2 legged preadators, ie pot farmers, meth lab operators, the aforementioned poachers.

I believe that game wardens carry handguns during archery season...Why is that?

I often go primitive weapon hunting while centerfire weapons are in my car.

As our law stands, I could be arrested for "hunting" with them. If I were to be in possession of my silenced auto, then I could also be charged with that.

I applaud this fellow for attempting to remove/clarify the current legislation before someone becomes a "test case".

I am sure that the drafters of the law do not seek to allow folks to hunt with an M-16, put to prevent the warden from fabricating an offense, when that is all he could find.

 

[MinScout]

FWIW, I think the idea is ridiculas. I hope it does'nt pass.

 

[Art Eatman]

MinScout, no crime has ever been committed via use of a legally-owned full-auto weapon. None. (I omit the alleged one or two instances of misuse by a police officer.) As a group, the owners of full-auto weapons are the absolutely most law-abiding of all gun owners.

Why, then, would they suddenly be prone to break any law? If they would suddenly become poachers, why do they not already hold up banks? I'd like to know your view as to motivations for such changes in proven good behavior.

Art

 

[bearmgc]

I carry a handgun with me while hunting here in GA for snakes and such.

Not for a minute do I envision myself drawing and cracking off a shot at a moccasin before I can be struck, or faster than I can step out of the way.

I have heard tell of folks being chased up trees by hogs, and I do believe that 10 rounds of 22 HPs would convince the swine to depart the area.

I mostly carry my HG for personal defense against 2 legged preadators, ie pot farmers, meth lab operators, the aforementioned poachers.

I believe that game wardens carry handguns during archery season...Why is that?

I often go primitive weapon hunting while centerfire weapons are in my car.

As our law stands, I could be arrested for "hunting" with them. If I were to be in possession of my silenced auto, then I could also be charged with that.

I applaud this fellow for attempting to remove/clarify the current legislation before someone becomes a "test case".

I am sure that the drafters of the law do not seek to allow folks to hunt with an M-16, put to prevent the warden from fabricating an offense, when that is all he could find.

Game wardens carry sidearms because they are law officers. You can't hunt with an M16 because in WY, the caliber is too small . But many people use an SKS to hunt deer, and other semi auto rifles. 2 legged predators and drug type crimminals are becoming more dangerous in the field, and as in border states, game wardens may find themselves outgunned. I think the Wisconsin incident though, has produced some knee jerk reactions among enforcement people. I don't think this whole issue is really about hunting or poaching.

 

[MinScout]

MinScout, no crime has ever been committed via use of a legally-owned full-auto weapon. None. (I omit the alleged one or two instances of misuse by a police officer.) As a group, the owners of full-auto weapons are the absolutely most law-abiding of all gun owners.

Why, then, would they suddenly be prone to break any law? If they would suddenly become poachers, why do they not already hold up banks? I'd like to know your view as to motivations for such changes in proven good behavior.

Art

It's not that I don't approve of automatics weapons, per se. To carry one while bowhunting in the unlikely chance of a bear attack seems kind of silly to me. I just think it's a non issue.

 

[Maxwell]

To carry one while bowhunting in the unlikely chance of a bear attack seems kind of silly to me.

Seems silly to me that someone would go hunting with a bow in the first place, but thats not the point.
The question is weather something should be made illegal because its not expressly legal.

Now if a hunter brings an nfa weapon (short shotgun, pistol with detachable stock, machine pistol, supressed weapon, or a belt fed m2hb machine gun mounted on the back of his truck for that matter) he should not be arrested "simply `cause" he brought more than his bow to the hunt.

Theres no reason to pre-judge him as a poacher or murderer just because he walked with a backup weapon that might not be conventional.

If he uses it to do something wrong, he can be hauled in on older laws already in place.

 

[TexasRifleman]

It's not that I don't approve of automatics weapons, per se. To carry one while bowhunting in the unlikely chance of a bear attack seems kind of silly to me. I just think it's a non issue.

Sometimes the anti gun stuff I read on this forum shocks me....

 

[MinScout]

Sometimes the anti gun stuff I read on this forum shocks me....[/QUOTE

I'm am NRA member and I own around 2 dozen various firearms, including an AR-15. I don't think I'm "anti gun".

 

[XD_fan]

It's not that I don't approve of automatics weapons, per se. To carry one while bowhunting in the unlikely chance of a bear attack seems kind of silly to me. I just think it's a non issue.

I think you miss the point. You carry a pistol/revolver while bow hunting for same reason so many fisherman in Alaska carry handguns. I carry a .357, in Washington state, when I'm fishing as protection against cougars. The point is this, when you need a gun you need it really, really quick. I don't think the bear is going to wait while you run to the truck to get your gun. Now if the point of bow hunting is to let the bears thin the herd; we need to start tranporting them where they can do some real good.

 

[Art Eatman]

MinScout, I agree in that I see no point to toting some sort of full-auto around while hunting. Just excess weight, IMO. However, I see no point in outlawing it.

The "L" word: Liberty.

I'm fed up with all this pre-judging of America's most law-abiding group: Shooters and hunters. (I omit fishermen because they lie, way too much. )

, Art

 

[WyoJack]

Coming from Wyoming, here's the deal as I understand it.

It is currently illegal to hunt with an automatic weapon or suppressor. In a lot
of locations, the only place to shoot is in the national forest or state land. By
default, if you are caught with an auto or suppressor on state or national forest,
you are assumed to be hunting, thereby poaching. Even if you are legal with the weapon. The only safe place to shoot an auto or suppressor is on private
property. Even then, there had better not be an elk within 5 miles!

All this bill does is to make it legal to shoot in a national forest, etc. with an auto or suppressor. At least that's the reasoning behind the bill. Hope this
helps clear things up.


Jack

 

[Navy joe]

Heh. Nothing to see here, move along. Dick Cheney is just planning an Elk hunt and needed a few little details like this law straightened out. Now, about that guest list...