I built my own from scratch 50 cal flintlock pistol with an 8 " barrel . 40 grains of ffg behind a 490 round ball went through a deer's chest bones, heart, lugs, liver, and almost completely through on a straight on shot. It bounced off the ribs on the other side but not before breaking 2 off them and punching the bone pieces out. The shot was 65- 70 honest yards out , with ever so slight of an angle, hence the ribs on the other side.
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Maybe this has been mentioned elsewhere, but round balls actually have much more stopping power than their paper ballistics would indicate. This is due to the fact of their ballistic inefficiency - they tend to dump all of their energy in the target. Elmer Keith commented on this in his book "SixGuns", IIRC. Plus, with a round ball you can get a fair amount more powder in a revolver's cylinder than you can with a conical. That being said, I personally wouldn't use anything smaller than a Dragoon, with 45 grains of powder. Seems to me a 3rd model with a detatchable stock and flip-up rear sight would make a handy woods carbine...
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Just got a very pretty Trad. Trapper .50, 1:20, flintlock, and can't wait to shoot it some, preparing for deer in Indiana. Where is the best guide for stoking this piece, and should I only use round balls?? This barrel is rifled, so why limit myself to balls, when conical may work?? Any advice?? I've seen some white "black powder" capsules in a magazine, before I got my Trapper. Anyone seen these, and have a name?? Can these capsules be used in flintlocks with more BP in the pan to ignite them?? Hey there Ridgerunner665, do you still have that pistol you seldom shoot?? I think I'm hooked !! Dao.
Just got a very pretty Trad. Trapper .50, 1:20, flintlock, and can't wait to shoot it some, preparing for deer in Indiana. Where is the best guide for stoking this piece, and should I only use round balls?? This barrel is rifled, so why limit myself to balls, when conical may work?? Any advice?? I've seen some white "black powder" capsules in a magazine, before I got my Trapper. Anyone seen these, and have a name?? Can these capsules be used in flintlocks with more BP in the pan to ignite them?? Hey there Ridgerunner665, do you still have that pistol you seldom shoot?? I think I'm hooked !! Dao.
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I don't have a Trapper ( yet ), so I can't give you any first hand load info, but here's a link to some info on the White Hots
i used to use a hawken pistol.. in MN . durring the muzzleloader season . a groupe of us would set up for drives in the thick MN river bottoms.. and a couple of us would push our wy through the willow breaks . these are very thick and you can usualy only see a few yards ahead.. so i would cary that pistol instead of my hawken rifle. never did get a chance to shoot it at a deer. but i loaded it with 40 grains of pyrodex P and a 300 grain buckslayer conical. in .50 cal. now i know in MN you can't use a cap and ball revolver. the gun has to be loaded from the muzzle.. and you also cant use a gun with more than one barrel.. all that said.. i am not sure i would shoot large game like a whitetail at more than 15 to 20 yards with a pistol..
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I posit:
E = (MV2 X BW)/450240
500 = (MV2 x 220)/450240
MV2 = 500*450240 / 220
MV2 = sq. root (1023272.7)
v = 1011.6 for a 220 conical
I believe a ROA will do that especially if you have the cylinders bored for another 10 grains of powder.
(1061 for a 200 conical if you buy the formula)
I posit:
E = (MV2 X BW)/450240
500 = (MV2 x 220)/450240
MV2 = 500*450240 / 220
MV2 = sq. root (1023272.7)
v = 1011.6 for a 220 conical
I believe a ROA will do that especially if you have the cylinders bored for another 10 grains of powder.
(1061 for a 200 conical if you buy the formula)
there is nothing wrong with a pistol for animals. The bullets will have the same abilities out to 40 yards as a conical from your hawken does at 150.
handgun equals harder shots, but if you practice as you should, you will be able to put bullets where they need to go for the animal you hunt.
If your only allowed a single shot/single barrel, try to get a good accurate scope on it. That will help you in the low light conditions that most legal bucks LOVE to move in.
handgun equals harder shots, but if you practice as you should, you will be able to put bullets where they need to go for the animal you hunt.
If your only allowed a single shot/single barrel, try to get a good accurate scope on it. That will help you in the low light conditions that most legal bucks LOVE to move in.
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