Brazilian Mauser model 08/34 .30 need some info please

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I'm no mauser collector, just got this on a trade. I've got a sporterized k98 that I like pretty well, and have always been a fan of old mausers.

I don't know much about this gun, and was hoping for some advice, what I do know is it was checked by a gunsmith before I got it (yes I trust the friend it came from) with go/no go gauges and all was good. It has a stamp on the end of the barrel indicating that it was made in germany, has a brasilian crest on it and a stamp indicating it was worked by the factory in Itajuba.

Pretty good condition for a gun this old, has the original leather sling on it in good condition as well...

I don't really know what questions to ask you folks, just hoping for a little information. There isn't much that I have found through the help of google...

How do I know if this is a long barrel or a short barrel? I don't really want to keep this gun. I think it would fit better in someone's collection rather than as a farm gun, so mainly I'm asking what info would I need to know to sell it/trade it off again?
 
ok, I'll give it a shot, but yall are just goint to complain about blurry photos ;) my little camera is almost as good as a potato.
 
fella told me it was an 1894 mauser, but comparing it side by side to my K98 I can't tell any difference in the receiver. I really don't know much about these and there isn't much information I've found online.

Mainly wanting to know if this is a K98 action and if it isn't how do I tell the difference.

The markings on the side of the receiver say

Mod. 08/34 .30

on the "left" side of receiver it says
Fabrica De Itajuba' - Brasil

it does not say m954 anywhere on it. Has a stamp on the end of the barrel that says

Cal ST AIR VT
Germany

bent bolt handle

a very wide trigger guard

no storage in butt plate
 

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any close ups I did of the markings weren't even readable because of the camera.
 
It's definitely a 98 action. I believe that one was a czech rifle purchased as a 08/34 from Brno. I don't know as much about them as I would like, but it's not an M954. Those had a cupped buttplate and a different front sight. It definitely has some value to the right collector as they aren't that common. One sold on gunbroker last month for just over $400, but it was in a little better condition than yours.

Matt
 
that's what I thought, the fella really confused me when he said it was an 1894 mauser... I think he was reading the 08/34 on the side... he's a friend, maybe I'll suggest some glasses haha.

I don't really care to sell it for cash, I'm just going to try locally to swap it off for a good truck/farm gun, wouldn't want to use something a collector might want for that type of use.
 
really hope I can find someone locally to swap this off to, I personally prefer sporterized mausers and would hate to do something like that to this one and it's just a little too heavy to lug around in it's current configuration.
 
Is this a .30-06 caliber rifle?

I ask because of the .30 portion. Typically 98s that have been re-barreled in .30-06 have the feed ramp and magazine partially cut away for the added length of the -06 over the original 7 or 8 mm Mauser.

I would be hard pressed to trade away a .30-06 rifle these days.

What caliber is it? Brazil used 7mm Mauser in their Mausers originally.

Does it bear the national crest on the forward receiver ring?

-kBob
 
It sure looks like a Czech made m-98 clone just like the thousands of other Vz-24s that the Brazilians bought from Bruno during the 1920s and 1930s.

After WWII, Brazil adopted the .30-06 as their service cartridge so many 08/34s were converted to this caliber. The original barrels were rebored/rechambered at the Fabrica De Itajuba Brasil arsenal...which later became known as IMBEL. These barrels had a ".30" stamped at the end of the 08/34 to designate that they were .30-06 models.

If your barrel has CZ "ear protectors" front sights, then it is descended from the CZ-made M1908/34 (7mm) rifles...here the barrels will have original "CZ" type markings ("T" in circle, and"34-xxxx" type dated serial numbers, and the parts won't have the Greek letter inspection marks.
Since the conversions were done at the same time as the DWM made Mausers to .30 caliber there will be some mix-up as to minor parts.


Here is a JC model Vz-24 that spent a long time in Brazil. The JC models weighed a half pound less and they thought that was a light-weight version. It is still in 7x57mm
 

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Yes, it has the national crest, yes it is a .30-06

I don't know what "ear protectors" are, but it apparently had a hooded front sight, the hood is gone. I like the triangular front sight, it is rather precise.

It has "made in germany" on the barrel and a made in brasil stamp on the receiver.

I'm guess it is probably one of the units that was made during some transitional period.

I do like it, the gun just has no place here. I use guns as tools and treat them as such, it would have a much better life as a range queen in someone's safe and I would be better served by a nice truck gun...
 
and thank you all again for the information, I'll find her a good home :)
 
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