Bring back the Draft: U.S. & R.A's

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Where in the hell would the American Revolution be without the DRAFT?

Oh wait, back then they respected unalienable human rights, nevermind.
 
I don't want to put words into Mad's mouth, but I think the central problem is that many of our young don't know what it means to serve. How do you get that? Draft? Culture? I don't have the answer. But let me make one final point. Illegal aliens don't serve in the military. They enjoy the benefits that other citizens (or aliens that have enlisted and are therefore not illegal aliens) are dying for.
 
Max Beep, actually, iirc, military service was the fast track to citizenship for at least one illegal within the last 2 years. His story made the MSM.
 
Why do we have to serve? service is just a nicer word for slave. gi means goverment issue and thats all you are when you sign that paper. Do you think the goverment give <<Arts Gramma was here>> if you die no the'll get another drone that cant think for himself and has to be told what to do and when to do it. Sorry buddy I can think for myself and dont need big brother telling me what to do and how to do it.Look even the president even tho he enlisted he was never around or out snorting lines with pablo just about.Plus I know alot of people in the service and every single one of them is a druggie so dont come on here thinking service is the be all to end all its not its nothing but a form of modern slavery.
 
yea mad max if your a illegal and want to be leagal all you go to do is join.Not something I want to be part of.
 
Some of you guys are just feeerocious...my...my!

Interesting exchanges.

I have a idea... Let's say you were required to give two years military or public service immediately after highschool and wouldn't be allowed into college without completing it.

Let's say you also couldn't vote without it.

Public service would be repairing infrastructure (building roads, planting trees, picking up trash, building homes for the poor and such).

I don't think it would hurt the younger generations one bit to give a little of their time in the service of their country. Might make us all appreciate it a little more.
 
I'm not in favor of a DRAFT as it's against what our Founders intended (No standing army, remember???)

I am in favor for an organized militia, however. These citizens would NOT EVER be deployed outside of the USA.

Those who wish to join the War on Terror(ism) are free to join. Hell, you may even make more money than you do now as a "contractor".

NONE of the Arabs (including the crazy arsed Wahabbists) have ever stated that they wished to conquer territory from the US. La Raza [ www.nclr.org/ ], Mecha [ http://www.azteca.net/aztec/mecha/ ] and Voz de Atzlan [ http://www.aztlan.net ] have OPENLY declared this.

I've been following the Latin Kings, MS-18, SUR-13, the Gulf Cartel, MS-13, The Mexican Mafia and their racist supporters such as La Raza, Mecha and Voz de Atzlan invasion of the SW USA for some time now and after last year's "May Day" demonstrations - organizing 1/2 million radicals on the streets in a dozen US cities alarms the Hades out of me. MS-13's overall plan is to continue building up strength in America, to bring in more drugs and sex slaves and to replace law enforcement as the dominant factor on the streets. They intend to rule here as they rule in large swaths of Central America. And there is evidence that these gangs are loosely aligned (though they sometimes do fight each other).

We should be more concerned about our OWN borders.

WE, THE PEOPLE need to regain control of our runaway gov't and follow the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Anything else is national suicide.
 
then wheres the freedom in that. thats whats makes this country our where free to do as we please.
 
Some of you guys are just feeerocious...my...my!

Interesting exchanges.

I have a idea... Let's say you were required to give two years military or public service immediately after highschool and wouldn't be allowed into college without completing it.

Let's say you also couldn't vote without it.

Public service would be repairing infrastructure (building roads, planting trees, picking up trash, building homes for the poor and such).

I don't think it would hurt the younger generations one bit to give a little of their time in the service of their country. Might make us all appreciate it a little more.

Umm.........we all pay taxes to enjoy these things. What you propose is nothing more than another form of indentured servitude.

if you die no the'll get another drone that cant think for himself and has to be told what to do and when to do it.

So John is that your view of those who served? We are mindless drones to you?
 
kaylee im just speaking my mind just like everyone else in this talk here I called them drones because thats how alot of people see them you demand i give them respect well respect is a 2 way street you people should know that if you served you got to give it to get it
 
"Where in the hell would the American Revolution be without the DRAFT?

Oh wait, back then they respected unalienable human rights, nevermind."

Care to ask the Natives and Blacks about that one? I think the IDEALS that they penned are honorable. What they practiced was abomination. But here we are. The goal, from MY perspective, is to ACCOMPLISH THEIR STATED & WRITTEN IDEALS IN A GODLY MANNER.
 
Doesn't anyone else smell trolls here? John, with your spelling and grammar, I'd sooner believe you got busted with a fake green card instead of being a white chef who got fired over his inability to speak Spanish.

We shouldn't have a draft. It was bad enough dealing with immature kids who got in over their heads when they enlisted and didn't want to be there, let alone being forced to join.
 
johncolo,

I have difficulty believing that someone who does not follow standard rules for capitalization and so forth, really understands the philosophical underpinnings of the beginnings of this nation. Perhaps you're just utilizing your freedom.

Tell me something, all these druggies you supposedly know in the military...exactly how do they handle the urine drug tests that are both given to all military personnel returning from leave and liberty as well as randomly?
 
I have a idea... Let's say you were required to give two years military or public service immediately after highschool and wouldn't be allowed into college without completing it.

Let's say you also couldn't vote without it.

Public service would be repairing infrastructure (building roads, planting trees, picking up trash, building homes for the poor and such).

Hmmmm... since Tax Freedom day usually falls near the end of the 4th month of the year, and people work for 40 some years of their lives, 13 some years of forced servitude is not enough?

Sorry, no support for a draft here. Of ANY sort.
 
Glockfan45,

Okay so you do it and while you do it we'll make it tax free!

Johncolo...so bitter...hope things work out for you
 
Were there to be a real threat to your freedom by a real military invasion of this country there would be no need for a draft. There would be spontaneous joining together to meed the threat.

The reason that drafts happen is that the killing the government wants to do is not what the people want to do.

The draft is just another demonstration that your masters think they own you as a slave and are willing to sacrifice you for their purposes. There is nothing patriotic about serving a government that is not yours.
 
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