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Browning or Bluing?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Jessesky, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Jessesky

    Jessesky Member

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    I picked up this sporter today from the gun shop on a whim. It seems to be done nicely. It is light, nimble, and has a nice checkered wood stock with a schnabel forend tip. $350 I couldn’t go wrong.

    My question: The barrel appears to be off a Winchester 54 or Winchester 70. Or it could simply be a look alike. It has either been browned to a high polish or rust blued at the wrong temperature. How do you think the barrel has been treated? Blued, browned, or other?

    Thanks guys

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  2. MihiT

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    How does one "rust blue" at the wrong temperature?? Perhaps you mean hot blue?

    From where I'm sitting it looks like it's just worn and developed surface rust. Boil it in water then drop it in used engine oil.
     
  3. Jessesky

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    Yes hot bluing * brain fart

    Maybe it’s hard to tell in the photo. It’s definitely not surface rust.
     
  4. 1KPerDay

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    I vote blued but has turned purple/brown over time. I have a P38 like that. Handsome rifle.
     
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  5. troy fairweather

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    looks like the bluing salts were either contaminated or at the end of there life or got to hot. looks like a nice rifle. good deal for 350. browning can get that color but would be near impossible to get it so even.
     
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  6. .308 Norma

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    I tried about a dozen times, and this was the best shot I could get of my Hawkins rifle barrel. It was "hot" browned over 40 years ago. I know because I browned it myself. Hawkins Barrel.jpg
     
  7. troy fairweather

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    i just talked to a friend that used to blue a lot, he said it's most likely from high nickel content in the steel. it maybe a savage barrel.
     
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  8. troy fairweather

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    i think the next mz i build, i will have all the parts cerakoted. the new browning just does not work like the old stuff.
     
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  9. spazzymcgee

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    Hot bluing can turn color like that over time, can start that way if the tanks aren't hot enough, or if the steel has a lot of nickel in it. We would normally turn the tanks up a good 20 degrees hotter with some old Winchester barrels, but some wouldn't take regardless of temperature. Generally when browning or rust bluing, a lower polish is performed. The rust doesn't stick to higher polishes like that.

    Oh, and make sure those drilled and tapped holes aren't behind your locking lug recesses.
     
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  10. Shimitup

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    I like it! I've never seen blueing turn that particular shade of color, It looks browned to me. My Security Six cylinder has turned a bit purpleish over a few decades. What chambering BTW.
     
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    I did one just like it on my CVA Hawken kit when I was 14. Looks great.
     
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  12. jaytex1969

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    I concur with the nickel content replies. I have a "B barrel" M39 Finnish Mosin with a "plum" colored barrel, similar to your finish. The nickel content is quoted as the reason that series of rifles are that color.
     
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    same reason some rugers are plum color to.
     
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    A lot of older blued Rugers have turned purply durply over the years.

    A few older Remingtons look purple I. The right light. I have a 7400 that’s kinda purple.
     
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  15. J-Bar

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    Uniquely beautiful. Thanks for the photo.
     
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  16. Bill Raby

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    So use the old stuff. Browning has been around for a few hundred years. It did not always come in a bottle.
     
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    Jessesky

    I had an HK P7 that had a plum slide. Wrote to HK about it and they said that: 1) it could be the metal that they used on that particular slide, 2) it could be in the heat treatment of the slide, or 3) it could be a change in the bluing solution (different formula or weakened solution), or it could be a combination of all three!
     
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