Bug-Out/Emergency or Truck/Car Rifle

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If you live in the rural/farm/ranch area carrying an easy-to-get-to rifle to dispatch predators is norm. It's been discussed and there are many options.

But I live in an urban area. Stopping to dispatch a predator, unless it's threatening someone's life, is frowned upon. For bugging out I've identified several in my safe that would be first to go in the car.

What I need is an emergency gun for everyday carry. One that I can take on road trips more than a days walk from home. One that I can carry in the car and that I can use if stranded away from home. One that would be for that 1-in-a-million event of being caught in a riotous or a disaster situation. (My friend Kevin was almost enveloped by the Ferguson riots. It does happen.)


I started with an AR Pistol and a carrying case. The case came from a 1 man tent. It makes a small but complete package that I can also carry into motels without attracting the attention a gun case would.

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As is evident I cut down the grip so the lower is <5" tall. I used quick take-down pins to facilitate assembly. And the upper only has iron sights and a full length fore end to protect the barrel.

In the bag I also had 4 20rd mags, a sling and a tool kit. The tool kit has the tools necessary to fit everything on the gun but the barrel nut. It contains a cleaning rod but no swabs nor oil, or other things that are easy enough to find anywhere.

I like the tent bag but it didn't seem professional enough and I worried about the pistol vs rifle while traveling in some jurisdictions. I converted it to a rifle and now use a Yoga mat bag. Looks much less like I'm carrying a gun.

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Still the overall height of the lower is <5". I can wrap a piece of yoga mat around the upper and lower for padding, but I'm going to try a 6" sonotube to give the whole package some stiffening.

Also notice that the upper is a side pull. That too may change back to a traditional rear one soon. I like the side pull but a rear one would a slicker package. The muzzle device is just an improvised muzzle nut made by cutting the bird cage off a $5 flash suppressor.
 
My AR pistol (7") fits (just barely) in a bat bag. Also fits broken down into many different assorted bags and cases around the house. In WI, I can legally have it loaded, uncased, in the car were things to get hinky suddenly. That's it's main raison d'etre. It's mostly a fun range toy otherwise. The tent bag and yoga bag are good ideas. There are also backpacks made specifically for carrying a broke-down 16" AR, thoguh they are spendy. I have a regular Eddie Bauer basic black/grey backpack that will hold the pistol broken down, lots of mags, and has two pockets that just fit AR500 side panels, one just above the other, for some protection, to boot.
 
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Well, I've lived in the same home for 50+ years and have never had a situations that called for bugging out.
Also, in NJ, traveling with a firearm is highly regulated and restricted even during a storm or crisis. So unless I'd be heading out of the state altogether, is just not worth it.
The closest I came to contemplating it was during Hurricane Sandy a few years ago.
We got lucky and were spared being washed out by the flood waters.
But in my pre planning, it came down to putting my Marlin 336 and my Marlin 70 Papoose in the vehicle which was ready to go.
I figured they'd be practical and the least threatening and reasonable to explain having during any LE encounters given the nature of the crisis.

Now, if I still lived out in Colorado where I did for a time many, many moons ago, they would still be my first choices if I could take 2. If only one, then definitely the 336.

I never considered anything for bugging out purposes, but I used to travel to some pretty remote areas. If the car breaks down, gets swamped by the weather, something else unforseen, etc, that's what I'd prefer to have with me.
 
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I keep an unloaded Ruger Mini-14 in the locked "Ram Box" of my Ram pickup, with loaded magazines inside the cab. If necessary, I can access the carbine and load it in under ten seconds. The Mini-14 is a stainless steel model (making it somewhat "weatherproof") and has a wood stock (making it somewhat less "threatening" in appearance to the ignorant).
 
I live more "out there", surrounded by farms and state forest. My jeep long gun is a H&R partner pump 18" barrel. More than enough power and flexibility to do whatever is needed for whatever I come up against. When I go out of town, I carry a FN PS90 in a black internal frame civilian backpack.
 
My jeep, and Rokon, guns are a Savage 340 in 30-30 or a Benelli Super Nova 12 ga. The latter usually if camping.

I would have thought one of the new Remington or Mossberg 12ga pumps with detachable magazine would be absolutely ideal. Magazine detached, chamber empty, makes long gun legally compliant for vehicle but very easily/quickly loaded if necessary. If the firearm is required for an emergency situation, long range will not be the priority, in my opinion. Brenekke and Rio slugs are minute of badguy in my Benelli.

A Keltec 2000 using the same mags as your handgun would be another excellent choice, in my opinion. Foldable, easily, rapidly loadable, and extends range to 100 yards or so.
 
I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade but even in my current condition as a middle-aged man I can dern near cover 100 yards of flat terrain in 10 seconds. Honestly speaking I have no idea how long it takes, but I recall it was around 12 or 13 seconds back in high school and I can still flat outrun my 14 year olds in a game of tag, one of them runs track.

I guess what I’m cautioning against is believing that kinda fast won’t necessarily make you first to the punch so plan accordingly and maybe bring a friend who’s also armed.
 
I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade but even in my current condition as a middle-aged man I can dern near cover 100 yards of flat terrain in 10 seconds. Honestly speaking I have no idea how long it takes, but I recall it was around 12 or 13 seconds back in high school and I can still flat outrun my 14 year olds in a game of tag, one of them runs track.

I think they make handguns for this scenario. To use as a starting gun so you know when to start running my way while I hit the start timer on my smart phone. :D
 
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Aside from my every day carry, if I need a rifle and not crossing state lines my little Krinkov fits the bill nicely. 5 30 round mags, compact case and one of the best point shooting guns in my collection.

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On the other hand the new AR-45 I just finished building would be a close second.
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When working out of town I always have my EDC of course, but bring an extra box of ammo. Also bring along an AR15. I figure since I work away from home often there is a good chance that if there ever is an emergency situation I just may have a couple days worth of walking to get home.
 
I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade but even in my current condition as a middle-aged man I can dern near cover 100 yards of flat terrain in 10 seconds. Honestly speaking I have no idea how long it takes, but I recall it was around 12 or 13 seconds back in high school and I can still flat outrun my 14 year olds in a game of tag, one of them runs track.

I guess what I’m cautioning against is believing that kinda fast won’t necessarily make you first to the punch so plan accordingly and maybe bring a friend who’s also armed.
I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm in town for me a light short carbine or a quickly deployed or put together carbine is for when you have a second.

When there's a drawn out exchange of hostilities, when you know trouble is coming and you have a second to get better armed or when there's a lull. Worse case would be when your pistol goes down or out of ammo.

To get it deployed while maybe also dialing 911 and put it on speaker phone and get the police on the way. Maybe while driving away from trouble.

If some dude is sprinting from me with bad intent from a short distance away I'm reaching into my waistband or my pocket, not digging into a pack, putting something together or trying to dig something out of my truck. If I'm by my truck I'd be more apt to just drive away and leave while grabbing it out of the back seat just in case.

Out of town it's generally more about animals.
 
My friend Kevin was almost enveloped by the Ferguson riots. It does happen.)
Which is why I don’t live near a big city.

There is something to be said about being able to look up in the nights sky and see stars. Even if that means a 40 minute drive to work. My house is my castle. My house is also where all my food, water, shelter, firearms, and ammunition are. I’m not abandoning those securities.

Now, as for what I carry in my truck? It’s probably my 10mm with extra magazine and my Marlin 44 mag. Surely that’s enough firepower to get me safely out of a bad situation as long as I use my most important weapon....my brain.
 
I'm in the OP's first paragraph. Spend way more time thinking about 4 legged varmints than two. Going to town? well,the Dobe gets some quality leash time.Sweetest dog you'll ever try to get stopped from ripping your arm off.Loves kids and nice folks.
 
Bug out gun? My first thought is my little Springfield combo gun, the M6....a .22lr/.410. That would do, along with a handgun.
Been thinking about this during the course of the day. The pistol....I am inclined to take my FN FiveSeven. I know ammo may not be common but I can pack 200 rounds in a space not much different than a box of .45s.
 
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PSA AR pistol. I keep in the trunk of my car in two halves. Probably will never need it, but it's there if I ever do.
 
We live in the country so I am a mostly a "bug-in" person.

However there is a major highway and a railroad about a 1/2 - 3/4 of a mile away from my home so I foresee how a chemical spill from a truck or railroad accident could cause a mandatory bug-out. This type of situation would be a quick grab & go evacuation. Not a lot of time to pack things...more like grabbing the checkbook, truck keys, a few clothes and the dogs. Hopefully it would be only for a few hours or for a day (24 hours) rather than long term bug-outs like a hurricane.

I have been giving this a lot of thought. At the moment I have a Taurus M941 22 Magnum revolver in holster and 500 rounds of ammunition in a 30 caliber ammo can set for a grab-n-go situation but I also would like to have something more powerful to take along. I am giving a lot to thought of building a AR pistol for this purpose after I finish my current two build projects. Kansas is Open Carry so concealment is not a concern however I need to find a way to carry the gun and extra magazines in a convenient easy manner.
 
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