Can I cancel my FFL?

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Can I cancel my FFL? Long story short, I was illegally evicted from a residence without cause in late 2017, I have had a renewed C&R since 2016. I was essentially looking for a place to live and bouncing between temporary locations trying to reestablish myself as well as being in court for a little over a year fighting this nonsense and late 2018 finally got a firm place to settle down to again. Never once during this situation was I thinking about my C&R. I was looking into forms for updating address recently when I noticed it says I have to notify them in under 30 days of an address change. Again, a C&R was the last thing on my mind during this time and I was basically getting what I needed done and working my butt off to regain a firm place to live of my own again while dealing with the legal process of the baseless eviction. So I'm kind of worried about updating the license. Would it be easier to contact them and ask to cancel my FFL then restart a whole new one to avoid potential repercussions about the timeline thing? Should I just not use it and let it expire? I did not do anything C&R related from 2017 to now and still have not. Guns were the last thing on my mind.
 
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First post still stands though.

Anyone else agree with Acrmny?
 
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Since I'm a retired cop (and was a pretty good bureaucrat in my day....) here's how I'd handle it... Simply contact the issuing authority, explain your circumstances - then ask them what to do... Most on the regulating end of things have been or know someone who's been through domestic troubles of one kind or another... You can always either cancel your ticket or allow it to expire - but seems to me the simpler response is to contact them and follow whatever procedures they advise. If I have a license or permit of some kind - keeping it valid seems much easier than starting from scratch and going over the hurdles again....

Good luck - and whatever course of action you follow, post it here. The forum will eat it up if I'm not mistaken - particularly those with FFL's...
 
I'm terrified if I tell them and don't just let it expire now that they might try to take legal action against me, which I certainly can't afford.
 
It expires in December of this year, I think I might just let it expire and not worry about it. I have no intentions of trying to use it for anything anyways.
 
I stand corrected, ty.

Are licensed collectors required to turn in their acquisition and disposition records to ATF if they discontinue their collecting activity?

No. Licensed collectors are not required to submit their records to ATF upon discontinuance of their collecting activity.

[18 U.S.C. 923(g)(4); 27 CFR 478.127]

Sorry about the bold print, came out that way with cut and paste.
 
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Have you filed a change of address form with the USPS?

The BATF will be sending a renewal notice to the address on your C&R in the next few months. Without you having a change of address on file it may be returned to the BATF thus telling them you have moved.

The question is does it really matter?

Your C&R Is "collecting" not dealing and selling firearms so the rules are somewhat different. Since you do not use your C&R to purchase and sell firearms there is no reason for the BATF to be interested in you. In fact on the renewal form it asks how many firearms you have purchased.

I think you are waaaay overthinking this. As suggested I would simply send a change of address notification to the BATF especially if I am going to keep it active.
 
@yeet: Since you’re afraid that you might get into legal trouble, then I’d say your best bet is to contact a lawyer first, preferably one familiar with firearms laws. Personally, I doubt that would be an issue and I’d simply call the ATF and ask them what I should do. But I’m not a lawyer at all and I have very little knowledge of 03 FFLs, so I’m simply telling you what I’d do in your situation.
 
The reason why I'm so worried is shortly after I first got my C&R license, I had an ATF agent literally show up at my door step and accuse me of trying to run a business without a proper FFL. (I was doing no such thing and never sold any of my C&R guns.) He also read off a list of handguns I had bought over the past decade or so (which has nothing to do with a C&R and were purchased after NICS checks in gun stores) and then repeated I'm not allowed to run a business. I don't know what the hell that was about but it made me a little paranoid. If I do mail this in and nothing comes of it, how long would it take to get an updated license anyways?
 
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Wow... I have never heard of that before. I have purchased many weapons... and have sold few. Some on my C&R most not.

I have never had any interaction with the BATF other than sending in my application and getting my lucense back from them.

I would not hesitate to call them, exlain the situatuon, and ask them what to do. Sounds like you ended up on someone's naughty list though.

It seems like there were a few high profile shill buyer / buying then selling on the black market cases a while back. I imagine when bad press hitss the ATF the **** rolls down hill and they start cracking down on everyone that has a long purchase history...?
 
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[/QUOTE] He also read off a list of handguns I had bought over the past decade or so (which has nothing to do with a C&R and were purchased after NICS checks in gun stores) [/QUOTE]
That doesn’t sound right.

It is (supposedly) illegal for the ATF to maintain a firearms registry so how would they be able to have a list of old handgun purchases.
 
The reason why I'm so worried is shortly after I first got my C&R license, I had an ATF agent literally show up at my door step and accuse me of trying to run a business without a proper FFL. (I was doing no such thing and never sold any of my C&R guns.) He also read off a list of handguns I had bought over the past decade or so (which has nothing to do with a C&R and were purchased after NICS checks in gun stores) and then repeated I'm not allowed to run a business.

That is a very strange story indeed. Just how many guns did you buy during the previous decade anyway?
 
About two to four a year.

"It is (supposedly) illegal for the ATF to maintain a firearms registry so how would they be able to have a list of old handgun purchases."

Anytime there is a NICS transfer, that information is stored in a database.

NICS-Process-600x466.jpg

The government does not destroy records as they are supposed to apparently. Welcome to national registration people like to believe doesn't exist.
 
He also read off a list of handguns I had bought over the past decade or so (which has nothing to do with a C&R and were purchased after NICS checks in gun stores) [/QUOTE]
That doesn’t sound right.

It is (supposedly) illegal for the ATF to maintain a firearms registry so how would they be able to have a list of old handgun purchases.[/QUOTE]
That story is more than a bit odd.
True, Federal law prohibits a firearm registry (except for NFA), but DOES allow ATF to maintain records of the multiple sale of handguns.
 
About two to four a year.

"It is (supposedly) illegal for the ATF to maintain a firearms registry so how would they be able to have a list of old handgun purchases."

Anytime there is a NICS transfer, that information is stored in a database.
Hogwash.

I don't know where you found that diagram, but very little is accurate and there's quie a bit of info that is just plain wrong.
An FBI NICS check does not give any firearm information other than the type of firearm (handgun/long gun/other), but DOES give information on the buyer.
No serial#, no model, no caliber, no manufacturer name....not even how many guns...…... NONE of that information is given to the FBI.

The government does not destroy records as they are supposed to apparently. Welcome to national registration people like to believe doesn't exist.
Being that the government doesn't get any information other than handgun/long gun/other that must be a spectacular database.

Now, some states DO require registration. But that isn't federal law and has zero to do with the FBI NICS check or ATF.
 
Sorry about the bold print, came out that way with cut and paste.

Not sure if you're posting from a phone or a oomputer, but when I'm cut and pasting with my computer I paste into notepad which strips any formatting and then cut it and paste it to whatever I want it to eventually end up.
 
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