Can I use CCI stingers in my 22/45?

[hokiemojo]

Hello,
I was reading my manual and it said I can use standard and high velocity rounds in my ruger. when I was at walmart, they had a box of CCI stingers, which are labeled as hyper velocity. I thought this was a marketing term, but now I'm wondering if that is the actual type of round. Is this load too hot for my 22/45? I hope not since they were about $0.12 per round. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!!!

 

[ID-shooting]

buy em up, go shooting.

 

[wyohome]

This is from a different forum "You are right in your thoughts about the increased blow back energy the hyper velocity cartridges give bolts of semi auto 22lr rifles. Makes the bolt travel back much faster beating the action along the way, at full back and forward to where bolt stops against the barrel breech.
Not a good thing. Stick with standard and high velocity loadings with semi autos."

 

[Deus Machina]

They work fine in mine. Less accurate and they move the recoil up to more of a mild 9mm than the other .22's, so I wouldn't run bricks of them through. But for fun and some modest target practice, grab some and go at it.

 

[jim243]

I would not recommend them for Semi-Automatic rifles or pistols. The use of Stingers in bolt action rifles and in revolvers would be acceptable.

Jim

 

[bigfatdave]

They'll cause more wear on your gun than regular HV rounds.
Quantifying that extra wear is almost impossible. (meaning that I can't say "Stingers will cause ###% the wear on your gun than minimags)

A box of 50 is unlikely to hurt anything though.

 

[MedWheeler]

I've shot a few hundred of them over the years in my Mk-II and in my 10/22 carbine. Never noticed anything running afoul with either gun, and neither had an owner's manual that "okayed" hyper-velocity ammo.

Now, ask me how I found out not to run 'em in a Jennings J-22!

 

[hentown]

This is from a different forum "You are right in your thoughts about the increased blow back energy the hyper velocity cartridges give bolts of semi auto 22lr rifles. Makes the bolt travel back much faster beating the action along the way, at full back and forward to where bolt stops against the barrel breech.
Not a good thing. Stick with standard and high velocity loadings with semi autos."

Well, that unattributed quote is worthless to me. I wouldn't hesitate to run a few stingers through either of my 22/45s or my 10-22. FWIW, and besmirching the above quote, the rearward speed of the bolt is irrelevant to the forward, return speed of the bolt.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

If longevity were my goal, I would follow the manufacturers recommendations.

 

[hokiemojo]

Thnks for all the replies guys. My main question should have been worded:

Is hyper velocity different from high velocity?

It sounds like they are from, based on the responses above.

 

[hentown]

I don't have any practical use for the hypers; but would shoot them, if I did. If I were going to do much of such shooting, I'd see if I could find a stronger mainspring. I wouldn't worry about the forward "battering" of the bolt. That's rarely a problem with modern semi-autos.

Stingers have been around for a long time. Have shot a few through a 3rd series Woodsman, with no obvious ill effects. Woodsman is still pristine. Gave it to my youngest son and acquired a 22/45; then another 22/45. Great pistols.

 

[x_wrench]

Is hyper velocity different from high velocity?

Yes, the Stingers are faster than standard or high velocity rounds. I "think" that a great deal of that velocity is gained by pushing a lighter bullet. Standard and regular hi velocity loads normally use a 40 grain bullet. The Stingers are only 32 grain. The lighter the bullet, the faster it will go with the same amount of powder. However, the lighter the bullet, the more powder CAN be added to create more velocity. And still stay within the normal load pressure ratings. The absolute best thing you could do is call both Ruger, and CCI. Ask Ruger if they are acceptable, and I would ask what might happen to the pistol, if you shot a steady diet of them. I would ask CCI, if they actually do put more powder in them or not. In this day and age of non-existent 22 LR ammo anywhere, except the *&^%$#@@ price gougers on GunBroker, you have to take ANYTHING you can find. I have not been able to take my kids shooting since last fall, because of panic, and gougers. i refuse to pay $60.00 (not including shipping) for a 525 round box of Remington Golden bullet ammo. The gougers can eat them for breakfast, lunch and dinner for all i care.

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

I generally reserve CCI Stingers for my single shot and bolt action rifles. One of the few exceptions in the handgun platform that will only cycle Stingers is the Beretta 21A Bobcat.

 

[PO2Hammer]

I'll shoot them in my 10/22 with synthetic buffer, but not my Mark II.

They shoot great in my CZ Scout, the bullets get pressed into the rifling as the bolt closes. Good for accuracy, and maybe a little boost in pressure too.

 

[jmr40]

The Stingers use a LONGER case, with a SHORTER, lighter bullet so the overall length is the same. The longer case allows a little more powder, combined with a lighter bullet you get a lot more velocity.

In match grade guns with tightly cut chambers they may not fit in the chamber. Most standard guns have chambers cut loose enough so as not to be a problem. For limited use they probably won't hurt the gun, but long term use might, or might not cause a little quicker wear. They may not feed as reliable, and they are generally not very accurate. I don't care for them, but if that were all I could find, I'd use them.

 

[osteodoc08]

I've used them without fanfare from my 10/22. It's only an issue in match/bentz style chambers. With the slightly longer case as noted earlier, they might not function and jam/etc. if its all I could find, I'd be blasting away with them but as with most things YMMV.

 

[MICHAEL T]

Your going to spend a lot of money before you wear out pistol from shooting stingers. It todays ammo short 22 I shoot what I can find I found my Beretta 21 both of them work perfect on std LRN CCI 22 LR .

 

[SlowFuse]

I'll second what JMR40 said about shooting them in a match chamber.

I have a Browning rifle that has noticeable resistance on the last bit of motion to close the bolt. Visually you can see the case is longer.

 

[skt239]

My father in law was at Walmart the other day in PA and scored me a few boxes of stingers. I've been shooting them out of my 22/45 and 10/22 with no function issues. While they feed fine, I have found them to be fairly inaccurate compared to the other stuff I shot today; including CCI mini mags.