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Can I use my 1849 Brass frame repro to stop charging hippos?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by kBob, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. kBob

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    Sorry I just could not resist it.

    I guess if I aimed for their Discover or Visa cards, eh?

    There are multiple post of late that amount to "well folks did it in the past!" that make me think of a cave I once visited in Europe were folks lived that supposedly hunted the primitive Euro now extinct version of grizz with fire hardened sticks. You will excuse me if I think going after even a modern Blackie (aka smelly hairy pig in the south east) with a fire hardened stick is a bit daft.

    By the way my biggest dissapointment on that cave trip was that a nude Daryl Hanna was no were to be seen in that real Clan of the Cave Bear cave. That place was a lot smaller than the cave of the eckonafront hunters across the valley, Made me think chasing bears with sticks was not as effective at keeping down friendly casualties as scaring Jumbo off a cliff with a flaming bush.

    Now I have to wonder if Clovis point peoples sat around the fire at night discussing how great grand pa hunted just fine with a fire hardened pointy stick so why not forgo the stone point?

    Oh yea, more "sporting"!

    -kBob
     
  2. LonesomePigeon

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    Can I use my Walker to club baby seals?
     
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  3. rodwha

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    Nice!
     
  4. stringnut

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    OP as Yoda says there is no try. When the hippo charges just have someone record the umm, excitement. You may want someone with a pointed stick around to finish off the wounded!
     
  5. grter

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    Oh yes of course and shot placement is extremely important. Remember you have to let him get real close to you if want a chance for that round ball to go through the hippo's thick hide.

    If any experts here can chime in but I think medieval knight armor with chain mail underneath and around your neck may be helpful just try not to let lazy hippo stomp all over you or sit on you, as I am not sure the armor would hold up but get ready for the ride of your life either way.

    Medieval knight armor against hippos would he poke (um I mean smash I was thinking Rhinos sorry) through or would we just get really rattled and fly. Or perhaps all three ???????

    I don't know about winney the pooh, big black teddys or the like as they might just grab you and tear you limb from limb which brings up another good question are these big teddys strong enough to squeeze a medieval knight helmet together with both paws to juice it's contents ??????

    Now that is really something to think about. I honestly don't know the answer however teddy is probably able to lift the knight by his head so can get a close up look at his face.
     
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  6. swathdiver

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    4 with four shots!

     
  7. drobs

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    Which black powder revolver for Zombies?
     
  8. PainlessWolf

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    Drobs!
    Has to be the LeMat, preferably two of them. 20 shots before you would have to run and reload!
    regards!
     
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  9. drobs

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    I'm thinking something like this, replace the flinters with C&B revolvers.

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    http://www.leatherlore.com/blackbeard.htm

    Just don't fall in a puddle.
     
  10. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    If that firearm is loaded down a smoothbore cannon that is fired at the critter, sure.
     
  11. expat_alaska

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    Wow. I don't have hippos in my neighborhood.

    I know this a facetious thread but we really can do with less of them, and I do have a sense of humor.

    I come to THR to learn things. I think it is one of the best BP gun forums there are.

    Jim
     
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  12. Eyrie G. Dogg

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    I think I saw that piratey guy the last time I was in San Francisco, but being Cali and all he didn’t have pistols in those holsters, it was something else.
     
  13. darkcloud

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    Actually in the time of the BP weapons hunting with smaller calibers than we might was a case of survival. They didn't do it for sport but to survive or make money to survive. They used what they could get and often it wasn't as big as they probably needed. A case in point is Lewis and Clark and the Corp of Discovery. They found their smaller calibers quite inadequate for the grizzly (they named it ursus horribilas for a reason) and elk of the plains. Hence the bigger bores by the likes of Hawken Bros. were carried later on and much desired. Today there is a fine line between sport, being inhumane and just plain stupid. Killing an animal should never be demonstrated as a stunt that can be accomplished.
     
  14. kBob

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    OK I ask forgiveness of those that found this too silly for words. I did like Gary's idea of using the revolver as a projectile in a larger gun.

    BTW I have at least one Hippo about fifty miles straight line out, rhinos at about 40 miles, elephants at about 25 and lions and tigers within ten miles. The occasional bear is caught jaywalking on the local roads... and I do have a brass framed 1849-er.

    -kBob
     
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  15. Jackrabbit1957

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    Sounds like a great way to remove ones self from the gene pool. Darwin would be proud. I also saw that pirate fellow without the guns, after the Burning Man festival in Nevada.
     
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    Panthers too, don’t forget the panthers, and snakes big enough to eat panthers and gators.
     
  17. darkcloud

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    kBob I saw it as great sarcasm and not silly. Some of what people do with a firearm is exceedingly stupid. Goes both ways from using to little a caliber to going over the top and can't hit a wall in a barn from standing inside it with their Belchfire ++P++ Magnum. Title made me giggle.
     
  18. Jason313

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    I think you must have meant, "will it stop a charging hippie, not "hippo", and unfortunately it will often not be effective as a dirt foot deterrent , usually for a bad infestation of the common north american hippie, the only thing that will drive them off are #1. Running out of weed and #2. Soap. Good luck !! ;)
     
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    I knew a fellow bladesmith who hunted wild pigs with dogs and a knife. He claimed after the dogs surround it and tire it down a bit he'd step in and stab it and when the knife was withdrawn, it was twisted so the wound channel was larger. The large loss of blood so fast would make the pig pass out, or feint. The way he talked, he and a number of friends had done this numerous times.
     
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  20. Jackrabbit1957

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    Not sure how succesful that would be on a really big and rank boar or a really pissed sow. Having worked briefly on a hog farm l have seen even domesticated hogs can be really nasty, to the point of someone getting chewed badly.
     
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    The guys I know who do that call it "Bay and Piggin' ". The dogs are referred to as Bay Dogs.
     
  22. Mk VII

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    "I shot the hippopotamus with bullets made of platinum
    Because if I used leaden ones his hide was sure to flatten 'em"

    (Hilaire Belloc)
     
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  23. John Joseph

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    This was the traditional way to hunt boar in many cultures. IIRC there is a place in Hawaii that gives lessons and lets you bag a tusker "Polynesian Style"
     
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    We hunted them with dogs for many years. Myself, I always carried a rifle or pistol. But we had one boar, over a period of just a couple of weeks it killed several dogs. Every time it would get bayed up it would start fighting the dogs and some in the group were killed. We always hunted in 3 or 4 small groups and communicated by radio. One Saturday morning one of the other groups called and said they had finally got him. So we all took off to meet at one of those guys home. When we pulled in the driveway, there was a sad all too familiar sight. Another dead hound.
    Then there he was. The biggest boar I had ever seen laying in the back of the truck.
    The story we were told was that the hound and a big bulldog bayed it up. The hog immediately killed the hound. But before he could turn the bulldog grabbed him and hung on for dear life. With the boar distracted by the bulldog, one of the hunters in the group climbed on the boar's back and stuck him with a knife as described in a previous post. With the boar dead they checked out the bulldog. Although he had some cuts he survived.

    Sorry if this was long winded. Just thought it might interest some of you.
     
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  25. Robert

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    Gary can reopen this trainwreck if he wants to, but for now this is done.
     
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