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I was perusing SC firearms laws, and I found this:

SECTION 23-31-180: No licensed retail dealer may hold, store, handle, sell, offer for sale, or otherwise possess in his place of business a pistol or other handgun which has a die-cast, metal alloy frame or receiver which melts at a temperature of less than eight hundred degrees Fahrenheit.

What exactly are they trying to achieve here? I'm not familiar with the melting points of various metals. Is this just a way to keep the Jennings boys from selling in SC?
 
The 800 degree range is kinda special when it comes to metals. Metals that melt below 800 tend to be very weak and malleable. Metals that melt above 800 are much stronger. My guess is that this SC’s definition of a “junk†gun.

For example, here is part of California’s junk gun definition:

a. A pistol, revolver, or firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, as those terms are defined in the California Penal Code Section 12001(a), which contains a frame, barrel, breechblock, cylinder or slide that is not completely fabricated of heat treated carbon steel, forged alloy or other material of equal or higher tensile strength;
 
seems like their way of keeping low quality, cheaply made, "junk" guns out of thier state. No great loss since it's more of a detriment having one than not.
 
Oh you AWFUL people.....

What about the RKBA for the .....POOR? Oh woe! No guns for our great citizens who can't save up enough money to buy a quality gun with some degree of built-in safety of material.

Oh my! If you fanatics had your way, only responsible people with JOBS or some money of their own would have guns.

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"For example, here is part of California’s junk gun definition:

a. A pistol, revolver, or firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, as those terms are defined in the California Penal Code Section 12001(a), which contains a frame, barrel, breechblock, cylinder or slide that is not completely fabricated of heat treated carbon steel, forged alloy or other material of equal or higher tensile strength"


I guess that lets plastic out, then. So it would ban Glocks, the very guns carried by a majority of California's law enforcement agencies? Is aluminum alloy considered to have sufficient tensile strength? (Most frames made of this material are not forgings, either.) If not, forget SIGs and Berettas. Or is there an exemption for LE?
 
It means no pot metal guns... junk guns as said. For example Hi-Points or Phoenix, Lorcin, Jennings and those of that ilk.
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Actually, the DPRK's vaunted 'handgun safety certification testing' was passed by all the Bryco, Davis, Lorcin, etc. guns with flying colors. Also, LEOs are specifically permitted to continue carrying/issuing/purchasing "unsafe" (non-certified) weapons.

So much for safe guns - the real agenda was to make all guns more expensive, less available, and keep the subjects disarmed and helpless in the DPR of Kalifornstan under our Kaliban rulers.

But I don't really have an opinion. :evil: :banghead: :cuss: :fire:
 
Pure aluminum melts at around 1200 degrees F so I think it's safe. Alloys may vary from this though. Most steels also melt in the neighborhood of 2200-2400 degrees, but again it depends on alloys again.
 
Many years ago NYC singled out SC as the source of illegal handgun market. The handguns in question then were the so called Saturday Night Specials. SC came up with the melting point requirment to cease the sales of the cheaper made handguns to appease NYC. We all know that wasn't the problem, but NYC was just looking for scape goats for their own fallacies.
Decades later NYC tried the same tactics against VA and the end results (with the help of our then idiot governor) gave us the "one gun a month" law. The very first law (to my knowlege) that was pushed thru with the help of a "comic book", but I'm not going to beat a dead horse.
 
Majic, I was looking at SC laws (when I discovered the 800F bit) and SC has a one handgun a month law as well. If I had to guess, given what you just said, it was put in place to placate NY as well.

Given traditional Southern, especially SC, feelings with regard to 'Yankees' in general, and NY Yankees (baseball and otherwise) in particular, I wonder why they didn't tell NY to stuff it?
 
I wonder why they didn't tell NY to stuff it?
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To put it in one word, MONEY!!!
Just about all major east coast corporations worked out of NYC at that time. Seeking major contracts and business expansions means kissing where the sun don't shine if you want to be competetive.
 
Not only the money . . .

The SC governor at the time that law was passed (Richard Riley) later served as the Secretary of Education under former President Clinton. Stood behind his Kommandant all the way . . . Tell y'all anything about his perspective and ethics?
 
I fully understand your explanation SCBAIR. When our (Va) law was passed Doug Wilder was residing in the governor's mansion. Need I say any more?
 
I've never heard of Hi Points being made of pot metal. From what I can tell, they seem to be pretty decent guns for the money.

Oh and Topgun, I can't say I really appreciate your sarcasm. As a married ex-college student (couldn't afford tuition on my salary, couldn't get a better job because of lack of experience/education, couldn't get a second job because of scheduling of first job :( ) who's trying to save up for when I'm away at boot camp, I can't afford much more than a Hi Point for my wife when you factor in the price of ammo and getting a CCW. I'm both responsible and have a job.
I'm sorry we can't meet the monetary requirements imposed by the racist N***** Town Saturday Night gun laws you seem so fond of.
So you think that because we're poor it was a good thing that my wife was unarmed last week when a man attacked her in her car. I guess it's a good thing that I wasn't armed when 5 neo-nazis started to attack me because my wife isn't white. It must be a good thing that my wife couldn't afford the kind of gun you think she needs when a junkie tried to kick her door down at 3 am before we got married. Glad no one in my family could afford a gun when my Dad was in the hospital dying and my frail old Mom was alone in the middle of nowhere with 6 young kids. We'd have truly been screwed if we'd had a gun that wasn't nice enough for you instead of being unarmed. Thank you for saving us the trouble of making our own decisions. Us lazy, irresponsible, habitually unemployed poor people don't deserve to have a means of self protection. :fire: :fire: :fire:

Elitist's like you make me :barf:
 
Balog - that seems a bit harsh, but I'm sure Topgun can fend for himself.

Besides, a Makarov is in the same price range as most Hi Points I've seen, and they are fine weapons. It's entirely possible to be poor and still have good stuff.
 
LiquidTension: I suppose it might be a bit harsh. Can't say I mind.
I know mak's and some 7.62x25 CZ stuff is around that range but...
I don't like the calibers, ammo is more expensive (especially good defensive ammo), and the only mak I've any experience with hurt lots and lots to shoot. Don't know why, guess the grip didn't like me.
 
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