Canada : Quebec facing 'unexpected resistance' to long-gun registry

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Canada : Quebec facing 'unexpected resistance' to long-gun registry


Quebec is facing 'unexpected resistance' to the long gun registry. Claude Colgan who's sister, Hélène, 'was one of the 14 women killed in the 1989' Polytechnique incident has come out in opposition to the registry. He believes it wasn't the firearm to blame but rather the shooter Marc Lépine who was responsible for his sister's death.

Also, in addition a new pro gun group has formed called "Tous contre un registre québécois des armes à feu" or in English "All against a Quebec firearms registry". They said that the registry is a 'waste of money' and 'won't save a single life'


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...istance-to-long-gun-registry/article28276425/


"Quebec is facing the first signs of revolt over its planned long-gun registry, an unexpected breach in a province regarded as the staunchest defender of gun-control measures in Canada. The government of Philippe Couillard tabled legislation for a made-in-Quebec registry last month. The move was expected to get broad support in a province touched by a string of mass school shootings. But some provincial MNAs have started expressing reservations about the registry, and an anti-registry petition has gathered more than 20,300 names online."

(Ingrid Peritz -MONTREAL — The Globe and Mail - Published Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2016)

The point of all this is to show that even in Quebec, where it is once believed that gun control and gun registration is acceptable. That may no longer be the case. So not only are there more people in the U.S. are seeing the bigger picture. But so are some of our friends North of the border.
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" MONTREAL—The country’s top court awarded a huge victory for Prime Minister Stephen Harper over the province of Quebec with its decision allowing it to scrap the remnants of the long-disputed gun registry."
-http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/03/27/ottawa-can-destroy-quebec-gun-registry-high-court-says.html

So - is it dead or are the subjects trying to reestablish one?
 
" MONTREAL—The country’s top court awarded a huge victory for Prime Minister Stephen Harper over the province of Quebec with its decision allowing it to scrap the remnants of the long-disputed gun registry."
-http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/03/27/ottawa-can-destroy-quebec-gun-registry-high-court-says.html

So - is it dead or are the subjects trying to reestablish one?
They are trying to reestablish one, that is why I put the date of the article in there. (Ingrid Peritz -MONTREAL — The Globe and Mail - Published Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2016)

Quebec, to my knowledge is the only one trying to start it up again. But there is opposition to it now, where as before there wasn't.

Here is the proposal

http://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/travaux-parlementaires/projets-loi/projet-loi-64-41-1.html

New sponsor
Moreau, Pierre

Acting Minister of Public Security
Date of change of sponsor December 2, 2015
Type

Government bills
This bill
was introduced during the 41th Legislature, 1st Session

Stages in the consideration of Bill

Definition of the terms used:

Amendment (one or more changes were made to the bill at this stage)

Majority vote (the bill went through this stage with majority support in the Assembly)

Vote : Yeas, Nays, Abstentions; (the bill went through this stage following a vote, the results of which were recorded)

The date of assent is followed by the year and chapter number of the Act assented to as they will appear in the Statutes of Québec. For instance, “2007, c. 7” following a date of assent means “Statutes of Québec 2007, chapter 7”.

Introduction

Firearms Registration Act (PDF, 179 KB)

Sitting held on December 3, 2015

http://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/travaux-...nale/41-1/journal-debats/20151203/160799.html
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"...is it dead or..." The traitors in Quebec think they are not subject SC of C rulings.
Our Provinces do not have the jurisdiction or legal authority to create any such registry, but Quebec's "leaders" don't care. Most of 'em think and act like they've already separated from Canada.
 
I spend a good deal of time in Canada on business from Montreal to BC but have never hunted anywhere in the country nor done any gun related activities. My experience is that the entire country is great, the people are very similar to Americans(very broad stroke there I know) but Quebec is about like being in San Francisco. Everywhere else I go we speak English and the vast majority of the people don't even know French but people in Quebec look at you like you are an alien, which I guess I am.
 
In the USA, felons and other prohibited persons cannot be prosecuted for registration violations, per the 1968 SCOTUS decision Haynes. vs. US which cited the 5th Amendment.

Of course Canada - being a different country - isn't bound by this or any other SCOTUS decision.

But I'm curious - does Canadian law have any protections analogous to the US 5th Amendment against requiring self-incrimination?

And if they do, would this have any impact on who could be prosecuted for failing to comply with a Quebec firearm registry?
 
"...does Canadian law have any protections..." Yep. However, our firearms laws are written with French Common law in mind. Onus is on the accused to prove his innocence vs being considered innocent until proven guilty.
And registration violations are a crime here. Maximum penalty is 6 months in jail or $5,000 fine. Means if you don't have a licence or a registration certificate, you're guilty.
And if you're "inspected" you are required to help. There's a provision for collectors who are required to give up Charter of Rights guarantees for owning a firearm. Periodic inspections can be done by government employees, but they have neither the resources nor personnel.
 
Quebec gov't is publically estimating $C17 million to initially setup their provincial registry. Around 1.5 million affected firearms in Quebec assuming 100% compliance. {Ha!}

A more realistic number is probably something like $C150 million, but the politicians who like the idea of a registry are low-balling the cost.
 
Glad to see they are fighting for their Rights no matter the chances of success. (And maybe they are high/low I don't follow Canadian politics). But good on em, EH? :)
 
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