Car/Gun Security

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Do any modern cars not come with a security system of some kind?
Yeah. My 1980 cj7 has a lockable console, and that's sort of important when it doesnt have a top or doors in the summer.

I have probably $$$ worth of portable tool boxes loose in the bed, and another $$$ of other junk inside an attached crossover box. I usually park away from the front door so the old grannies can park close. I've never had anything taken.

It's not uncommon for me to be in a federal building (usda) or PO. I just discreetly drop my pistol in the console, and lock the doors.

One of the best incentives for a thief is for him to see you drop your gun in the console and walk away.
 
As for guns, if I'm gonna carry, i'm keeping it on my person no matter which facility I go to. If it's really a place where I cannot be seen with a gun, then a very small gun like a .32 is what I'd likely bring.

Hopefully, ignoring certain facilities rules won't result in a criminal penalty. Then you won't have to worry about carrying, ever.

Since 1970, I've kept a pistol in my vehicle. They were hidden or stored in the map pocket or under the seat. After 49 years and no problems, why change?

Because no one would ever think of looking in those places.... lol
 
Without going into too much detail, if I have to leave it in the car, I try to store it in such a way that it is not in a place/area that a thief would be likely to look in, at least not first and not if they were in a hurry. It's not foolproof, but it's better than leaving it in the glove box or center console.

I am liking the lockbox idea others have mentioned though. I might have to look into that.
 
Unattended firearm in a vehicle means in a locked box or glove box in my state to be legal and what I do after unloading it. I stash the mag and or ammo in a different location. In my opinion a locked glove box isn't very secure and one of the first places a thief will look but will do to protect myself legally. I'll never carry in state or government facilities where prohibited and risk my permit and prosecution. I normally won't leave the house with a gun if I plan on going to a prohibited facility to avoid having to leave it in my truck.
 
I have a key lock console safe in my truck that I keep valuables, including guns and ammo, in while traveling. I also have a cable tethered under seat safe that I use in the car.
 
Glove boxes and center consoles are pitifully easy to break into. I have done it numerous times with a lot of care and attention in a few minutes.

If you are not at all concerned with the damage you cause to a client's $75000 car, however....
 
I have a Nanovault 200 (key model) under my driver seat. Cable locked through the seat bars. It has been there for almost 3 years and I have used it a handful of times to store my firearm. Usually when I go to the VA. I don't like locking my firearm in my car but will if I am about to pass through a metal detector.
 
Curious to know how folks handle leaving their CCW behind when visiting off limit facilities.
I'm asking because I always feel uneasy leaving a gun and ammunition unattended.
Look up Console safes.

They fit in your console and are VERY secure,and I mean VERY.

Mine has a combination & a key,but the only way in with force might be with a grinder and a few wheels to burn up.
 
I don't know if this has been posted yet but I have been teach this for about 40 years now and using this method for about the same amount of time. I call it the 'poor mans security system'! ;) I simply run a chain through the seat brackets under the drivers seat and put a paddle lock through the to end links and then I put the lock through the trigger guard BEHIND the trigger (most guns work with this method, only few do not) and lock it. This puts gun into the back seat area. Then simply cover/hide it with something. With 45+ years in LE I have never seen a criminal that breaks into cars that carry a hack saw or bolt cutters so even if they find it that can't remove it or fire it. It works VERY well and cost VERY little. ;)
 
For a short time I kept mine in my console that locks with the vehicle key, but I know it's just plastic that could be broken into with a cheap screwdriver. Now I have a steel console vault in my truck.
 
The few seconds I'm in that gun free zone is a very narrow window of opportunity. Most times my vehicle is visible from a window.
Generally, it's a decent neighborhood, during the daytime.
 
I don't know if this has been posted yet but I have been teach this for about 40 years now and using this method for about the same amount of time. I call it the 'poor mans security system'! ;) I simply run a chain through the seat brackets under the drivers seat and put a paddle lock through the to end links and then I put the lock through the trigger guard BEHIND the trigger (most guns work with this method, only few do not) and lock it. This puts gun into the back seat area. Then simply cover/hide it with something. With 45+ years in LE I have never seen a criminal that breaks into cars that carry a hack saw or bolt cutters so even if they find it that can't remove it or fire it. It works VERY well and cost VERY little. ;)
Up until recently = that is what I did.

I was using the cable locks that come with all guns now.

They are fast and easy and they first have to be found before there is any threat of the gun being even tampered with.
 
So, what’s your point?
Speaking as a LEO with 45+ years experience, the point is the fact that you 'lock' your car is totally irrelevant to a criminal!!! I think anyone who leaves a gun in a motor vehicle UNSECURED (a locked car is NOT SECURE) should be charged with reckless endangerment! Here in Bama we had several officer shot and almost all of the guns used by the criminals were taken from motor vehicles, most of them LOCKED:fire:. CARRY YOUR GUN ON YOUR PERSON OR DON'T CARRY ONE.:fire: There are ways, that we have discussed here on this thread, which can be used if you MUST leave your gun in your vehicle for a SHORT period.:) That is the point!
 
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