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Carlson dead coyote

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  1. Taylor Jarrell

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    Hey all, what shot sizes are safe and unsafe in the Carlson dead coyote choke? Also what shot sizes do you all prefer with it?
     
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    Why would anything but slugs, sabot type, be unsafe? Not being smart, just curious, as I have shot through everything from aftermarket extra fulls through the adjustables including Poly,Cutts, and Pachmayr without problem everything up to #4 buck.
     
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    I believe they are safe with any size but I know for sure they are safe with T shot and #4 buckshot. They aren’t safe with steel. If you have questions give Carlson’s a call. I’ve contacted them several times with questions and Mr. Carlson actually got on the phone and talked to me. They are some seriously nice and knowledgeable people.
     
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    Not safe with steel !? HeviShot, especially Dead Coyote at a density of 13.0, is harder than ANY steel shot.
     
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    Carlson’s website says the chokes are for lead and bismuth but not steel. Are you confusing weight and hardness. Lead and Bismuth are denser(heavier) than steel but much softer
     
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    But Tungsten (hevishot) is much denser than lead but is harder than steel, so the chokes may not work or be safe with tungsten shot.
     
  7. Taylor Jarrell

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    So will #4 buck pattern better at range in this choke than say a full or modified?
     
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    Just did a little research and this is what I found. Carlson’s coyote choke is as stated above. They also made a coyote choke for Hevi-Shot that was not marketed by them(Carlson’s) but was sold by Hevi-Shot the ammunition maker. From what I can gather the Hevi-Shot Dead Coyote choke is not made anymore. The Carlson’s version is still made and is not safe with steel, or I guess Hevi-shot.
     
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    There is no way of knowing unless you pattern the shotgun. A coyote choke in theory should throw a tighter pattern than a full or modified choke.

    Are their any markings on the choke that say something like, “Lead and Bismuth”?
     
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    I’ve done some more reading and missed something. The Carlson’s coyote choke is okay for Hevi-Shot but not steel. From their website:

    Carlson's Coyote Choke Tubes
    For use with Hevi-Shot, Bismuth or lead, this high performance choke tube has been specifically designed for the coyote hunter to deliver devastating downrange patterns upwards of 70 yards when shooting larger shot sizes. Produces very dense patterns when ultilizing T and #4 Buckshot loads. Great for waterfowl and predator hunting.
    NOT FOR USE WITH STEEL SHOT

    I’ll leave it to someone more well versed than me to explain why it is okay to use this choke with Hevi-Shot but not steel.
     
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    HeviShot started out all the same, but it is now a BRAND and they offer softer shot than the Dead Coyote shot or the HeviShot Goose loads. Not very good instructions in my opinion.
     
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    It is confusing.
     
  13. Taylor Jarrell

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    Marked for anything but steel, no diameter though and I don't have calipers, that's kinda important why it isn't marked is beyond me, it's not like people can't measure (if they have the tools)
     
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