Carry Handgun of the Year - 2019

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Aluminum frame with a new type poly resin grip that does not look to be compatible with the grips of standard or compact 1911 pattern pistols.

Squared off Euro trigger guard with rail. It will need it's own holster.

MSRP of $1500 means about $1200 street.

I'm sure it runs fine.
 
No doubt that's s fine gun, but $1500 is pretty spendy for an EDC gun.

Never much understood that thinking. I want my carry gun to be the best shooting in my hands, cost aside. I also don't want expensive guns that just sit in the safe and don't get use.

I know there's this nebulous fear of losing the gun if you have to use it but the chances are crazy unlikely and if it saves your life, money well spent in my book.

The other worry might be abuse of your carry gun through neglect I guess? But for me, a tool I might need at a moment's notice to save my life warrants routine care and maintainence, I sure wouldn't want a dry and rusty rusty carry piece not to go bang in the once in a lifetime chance I'd actually need it.
 
Looks like it comes with a holster, so that's a nice bonus already having an IWB that will fit it.
 
Looks like it comes with a holster, so that's a nice bonus already having an IWB that will fit it.

If that holster fits the buyer and the buyers needs, then it's a good deal. If not, then it's another "free" giveaway of a recyclable ill fitting holster that sits unused in the original box till the buyer trades or sells the gun.

I say this not because I'm cynical but because I'm experienced.
 
If that holster fits the buyer and the buyers needs, then it's a good deal. If not, then it's another "free" giveaway of a recyclable ill fitting holster that sits unused in the original box till the buyer trades or sells the gun.

Would fit my needs. And that's the only consumer I truly care about :D
 
It's not a glock or M&P where every single LGS sells one. I've seen them sell like hot cakes at 1499.
You've seen these guns sell like hotcakes at full MSRP? Where did you see this? Who were the buyers of this new gun?
 
You've seen these guns sell like hotcakes at full MSRP? Where did you see this? Who were the buyers of this new gun?

The forums I belong to that specialize in higher end guns. A bunch of funny names were the buyers. :)
 
I can't believe there is a single person alive who gives a half-eaten dog t*rd about "awards" like this. Who gives it, freakin' JD Power & Assoc.? [Scoff]

Seems like an interesting gun, though.
 
Regarding a $1,500 carry gun being "spendy".
Never much understood that thinking.
From my perspective, based on historical accounts, the self defense scenario I am most likely to be involved in will occur with me and the attacker being in very close proximity and will be over with less than three shots being fired. Given those odds, what I am looking for in a carry gun is something of a size and weight I am likely to carry, can quickly draw from concealment and reliably goes bang when I hit the switch. I don't see any features on this $1,500 pistol that increase my odds in the scenario I described over a pistol costing 40 to 60 percent less. That's my thought process, others may vary. I don't think my analysis falls within the minority.

On the other hand, if I were inclined to start shooting competitively where fractions of an inch and fractions of a nanosecond count I would want ever improvement I could reasonably obtain.
 
Never much understood that thinking. I want my carry gun to be the best shooting in my hands, cost aside. I also don't want expensive guns that just sit in the safe and don't get use.

I know there's this nebulous fear of losing the gun if you have to use it but the chances are crazy unlikely and if it saves your life, money well spent in my book.

The other worry might be abuse of your carry gun through neglect I guess? But for me, a tool I might need at a moment's notice to save my life warrants routine care and maintainence, I sure wouldn't want a dry and rusty rusty carry piece not to go bang in the once in a lifetime chance I'd actually need it.

I get your logic in your thinking but I'm a firm believer that expensive doesn't necessarily mean reliable, it often times means quite the opposite. I approach my CWL decision with a different logical path.

I want my carry weapon to be one that is tested in a broad range of environments, by a large population of people and with engineering that has been well researched, refined and instituted. I'm not one to carry a handgun that a small percentage of people own. One can overcome this with lots of personal testing and rounds through the gun, but it is a nice comfort to know that when one chooses a Glock, S&W, CZ, Ruger, H&K, Sig, etc., that there are countless of departments here and around the world that are using said firearms.

When I think of STI, what comes to mind is competition shooting not concealed carry. Just my opinion, hence why I thought it was another ridiculous gun rag piece with no common sense at it's basic premise. Anyone who is a part of the gun world knows there are several mainstream concealed pistols that came out in the last 18 months that are seeing a lot more purchases and action than that of the STI.
 
Generally "X" of the year is based on the amount of buzz, innovativeness, and the perceived quality of a new entrant.

Based on that, as much as I like the 1911, and I am wearing a variant of the 1911 as I am typing this, it would need to be very special, like the Springfield EMP, for a 1911 to be selected. Even though I don't own a Sig P365, based on the criteria that I gave, it is the one I would select for handgun of the year.
 
Looking at the specs for the Staccato C, its heavier, has less capacity, wider and larger in other dimensions that many other carry weapons out there. So I guess they get handgun of the year for having a single stack 1911? Welcome to 10 years ago. Not trying to be hard on the Staccato C, it looks like a fine weapon (it really does), and would probably make for a great carry piece, but just don't see it as the "Carry Handgun of the Year," but to each their own.
 
but I'm a firm believer that expensive doesn't necessarily mean reliable, it often times means quite the opposite

Absolutely, my point was I use what works best for me regardless of price. For instance my current EDC is a DW Valkyrie (quite similar to the gun in question) with a MSRP of like $2k, though in reality they are going for much, much less, like $1100-$1300 (though, through a happy set of circumstances I only paid about $550 for mine). I like it because it carries as well as a smaller gun, like my Glock 26, yet shoots better at longer range and still holds 10 rounds of 9mm. Also, I really prefer how single stack mags carry for my spares both in comfort and concealment.

Would my Glock 26 suffice in probably any and all CCW related incidents just fine? Yep, probably. But I am confident in my EDC and comfortable with it, so it works for me. Price is not part of my equation once I already own the gun.

Looking at the specs for the Staccato C, its heavier, has less capacity, wider and larger in other dimensions that many other carry weapons out there. So I guess they get handgun of the year for having a single stack 1911? Welcome to 10 years ago. Not trying to be hard on the Staccato C, it looks like a fine weapon (it really does), and would probably make for a great carry piece, but just don't see it as the "Carry Handgun of the Year," but to each their own.

Agreed. Though there are those of us who a gun like this will work far better than, say, a Sig 365 or even Glock 43/43x/48. Bigger hands make shooting those well difficult for me, yet the thinner profile of a 1911 style is an advantage over a similarly sized Glock 19.

But yes, gun of the year is just market hype.
 
I was wrong, there is no MSRP on these guns. STI is offering them for $1495 and that's it. This is different than the normal factory model of sales through distributors. So it is what it is.

If you want one for less wait a year or more when they begin showing up on the used gun market with a couple of extra mags and an unused spare holster.

I haven't seen a videos yet of the field strip procedure (alot of gun reviews these days omit any actual useful information) so I have some questions that are unanswered like...

A. Does the gun use standard 1911 mags or are the 9mm mags proprietary. Can other 1911 mags run in the gun?

B. The guide rod set up looks unusual. Neither standard GI nor a FLGR. What is it?

C. What does the naked frame of the gun, without the wrap around single screw grip, look like. We already know that standard 1911 grips won't work but will only the STI grips work?

D. We can see it has a bull barrel but is it a standard 1911 barrel or otherwise different?

E. Is the frame built around the 9mm? Meaning smaller than a standard 1911 grip?

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Perusing a few threads on the 1911 forum...

A. Seems like yes, but the baseplates will leave a small gap in the integrated "mag chute" geometry on the grip.

B. Recoil master (I guess) that works like standard bull barrel guide rods sans needing a paperclip (though plastic spacers are provided), I just use my fingers for my Kimber Ultra and bet I could do the same.

C.D. dunno.

E. Since standard Wilson mags seem to fit it's at least as long as a standard grip and not smaller like the EMP

Or so I read.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=990888

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=992716
 
Never much understood that thinking. I want my carry gun to be the best shooting in my hands, cost aside. I also don't want expensive guns that just sit in the safe and don't get use.

I know there's this nebulous fear of losing the gun if you have to use it but the chances are crazy unlikely and if it saves your life, money well spent in my book.

The other worry might be abuse of your carry gun through neglect I guess? But for me, a tool I might need at a moment's notice to save my life warrants routine care and maintainence, I sure wouldn't want a dry and rusty rusty carry piece not to go bang in the once in a lifetime chance I'd actually need it.
Since you took the time to quote me, I think I deserve a rebuttal.
EDC is hard on guns.
Some folks EDC is harder on guns than others.
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Liquid fertilizer (I got doused head to toe last week)
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This is part of the reason my EDC is small and inexpensive.
I have a few nicer guns, but I dont subject them to this.
Not all carry circumstances are created equal.
 

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Since you took the time to quote me, I think I deserve a rebuttal.
EDC is hard on guns.
Some folks EDC is harder on guns than others.
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Liquid fertilizer (I got doused head to toe last week)
View attachment 847670 battery acid and corrosion (we maintain around 60 of these)
View attachment 847675 torch and welder splatter(stippling anyone?)
View attachment 847682 Gramoxone...(nasty corrosive)
View attachment 847677 gravel work areas (try rolling around under this baby with your EDC iwb)

This is part of the reason my EDC is small and inexpensive.
I have a few nicer guns, but I dont subject them to this.
Not all carry circumstances are created equal.

Sure, I agree. My VBob has numerous scratches from working on my truck and rolling around under it on the pavement, I don't care.

The rest, yeah, I might choose a cheaper gun when doing those chores or I might not, can't say as it's not my daily grind.

My main point was I don't worry about losing it after a shooting as it's so rare. If you have such a harsh daily environment (and good on you for working so hard, it's what makes America great) then that's another consideration. When I worked in the warehouse, plant, and shop in the past it was strict no guns (no CCW in the state at the time) so it wasn't an option anyway, these days my work (truck, logging, building, house work) is more leisure, home maintainence and side work, but I still carry the same guns as a trip to the store.

But everyone is different, no big deal
 
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C. What does the naked frame of the gun, without the wrap around single screw grip, look like. We already know that standard 1911 grips won't work but will only the STI grips work?

I imagine it will be very similar to this. 2011 type frame.

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Aluminum frame with a new type poly resin grip that does not look to be compatible with the grips of standard or compact 1911 pattern pistols.

Squared off Euro trigger guard with rail. It will need it's own holster.

MSRP of $1500 means about $1200 street.

I'm sure it runs fine.

Companies like Wilson, Baer, and STI aren't discounted like common firearms.
 
I often carry an STI VIP, basically the double stack version of that one. Got it used for $1350 with 9 Dawson mags. Got a pretty big moccasin trying to eat a catfish with it one year after dragging ponds.

Sounds like a lot of money and at one point in my life that was more than I paid for my daily driver, these days that’s not even a full set of tires.

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