"Castle defense" law passes in Ohio

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It's about time !

from the Dayton newspaper.....

Self-defense law will change Tuesday

By Kyle Nagel Staff Writer

Monday, September 08, 2008

For years, gun rights advocates have stressed to lawmakers the importance of protecting the home, sometimes with even deadly force.Beginning Tuesday, Sept. 9, those defenders will get the benefit of the doubt. As part of several concealed carry law updates scheduled to take effect, Ohio will adopt a version of the Castle Doctrine, which states that a person using force against an intruder in the home or car is presumed to have acted in self-defense.Gun rights advocates say the law is a long time coming, while prosecutors are concerned that the trying of such cases will be more difficult.Currently, if a criminal case comes from such an incident, the person who used force must prove it was self-defense.Under the Castle Doctrine — already in effect in several states and named for the centuries-old theory that a person must protect his or her property (or castle) — it will be the prosecutors' job to prove it wasn't self-defense, which all admit is a much more difficult task."Right now, if someone breaks into your house tonight and waves a knife at you and you shoot them, you have to prove their intent," said Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association, a state gun rights advocacy group."They're saying, 'Was their intent to sell you knives, or to kill you? Well, prove it.' That's what is going to change," Irvine said.Contact this reporter at (937) 225-7389 or [email protected]
Castle DoctrineS.B. 184 states that the law, the Castle Doctrine, will "create a rebuttable presumption that a person acted in self-defense or defense of another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if the person against whom the defensive force is used is in the process of entering or has entered, unlawfully and without privilege to do so, the residence or vehicle occupied by the person using the defensive force."
 
This is a great change from the current (for one more day) law which presumes someone to be guilty in a self defense situation unless and until they can prove themselves innocent. :barf:

Lots of new car-carry law changes too. Makes it easier to transport firearms whether you have a CHL or not.
 
Great news. Texas is a strong self-defense state and it was certainly welcome here!
 
TheBluesMan said:
Lots of new car-carry law changes too. Makes it easier to transport firearms whether you have a CHL or not.
I hope so, however from what I've read, this Castle Bill has no teeth for those of us without an Ohio permit or reciprocity. I'll have to get a Florida permit if I want to go home to visit family.
 
Can someone clarify what changes have been made to car carry here in Ohio, or provide a link so I might educate myself?

thanks!
 
I hope so, however from what I've read, this Castle Bill has no teeth for those of us without an Ohio permit or reciprocity. I'll have to get a Florida permit if I want to go home to visit family.
??? The "castle" part applies to anyone. The CCW in a vehicle part applies to anyone holding a CHL recognized by Ohio. That is not every other state, but that needs to be addressed by the Attorney General.

Can someone clarify what changes have been made to car carry here in Ohio, or provide a link so I might educate myself?
You can find what you seek here: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/
 
I hope so, however from what I've read, this Castle Bill has no teeth for those of us without an Ohio permit or reciprocity

The castle law applies to anyone within Ohio's borders, and even specificly states "permanent or temporary dwelling". This means hotel/motel rooms, staying at a friend's house overnight, RV's, and tents in the woods. If you have a legal right to be there and someone breaks in, self-defense is assumed by the law and the prosecutor will have to prove malicious intent on your part to even bring a case to hearing.

Some consider this a free ticket to manslaughter, but this really does put the "innocent until proven guilty" back into defending our homes. Next extra cash I get, I'm funnelling some donations to the groups that got this going and kept with it so many years.
 
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