Ccrkba Says Arizona Restaurant Assn. Spreading Anti-gun Bigotry

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CCRKBA SAYS ARIZONA RESTAURANT ASSN. SPREADING ANTI-GUN BIGOTRY
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Opponents to concealed carry reform in Arizona have stooped to anti-gun bigotry in their efforts to convince Gov. Janet Napolitano to veto legislation that would allow legally-licensed, law-abiding citizens to patronize restaurants and bars, said the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA).

"It is appalling that Steve Chucri, president of the Arizona Restaurant and Hospitality Association, would rely on a poll that essentially has 78 percent of Arizona residents practicing social bigotry against law-abiding gun owners, who prevent crimes almost every day somewhere in America," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. "That's apparently the percentage of poll respondents who, according to what Chucri reportedly told the Arizona Daily Star, ‘oppose the idea of sitting next to someone at a restaurant or bar who is armed'.

"Fifty years ago," Gottlieb observed, "this kind of cracker mentality was directed at black citizens in Mississippi and Alabama. But whether it is prejudice against racial minorities or law-abiding gun owners of all races, it is still bigoted and just as insidious."

CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron also found it objectionable that Chucri's group, in cooperation with the Arizona Tourism Alliance, Arizona Hotel Lodging Association and the Arizona Licensed Beverage Association, are sponsoring an advertising campaign against Senate Bill 1363 that promotes fear, if not outright hysteria, against legally-licensed citizens who simply want to enjoy a meal with their families, in a safe environment.

"We all remember the Luby's massacre in Texas several years ago," Waldron said. "That incident prompted citizens to demand concealed carry reform in the Lone Star State. Today, in Texas and more than 30 other states, legally armed citizens are welcome in restaurants, theaters and many other establishments. We're not sure why Arizona restaurateurs have such a low opinion of firearms owners in their state.

"Perhaps these business groups should have signs printed up with the message, ‘If you own a firearm, we don't want your kind in here'," Waldron added. "Yet legally-armed citizens have proven for years that they are better behaved as a group than the general public, and they actually prevent crimes. It would seem to me that businesses would want such people as customers. In this case, it would appear that nothing is as blind as bigotry."


With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. The Citizens Committee can be reached by phone at (425) 454-4911, on the internet at www.ccrkba.org or by email to [email protected].
 
They're opposition is questionable because the proposed law has specific provisions so that any impacted business can post "no guns" signs if they want to. The "businessmen and women" involved want their cake and eat it too. They know that posting signs will drive away business, so they want to stop the bill and not have to worry about posting signs.
 
...whether it is prejudice against racial minorities or law-abiding gun owners of all races, it is still bigoted and just as insidious.

Yep. Today's snivelling and whining about so-called "gun control" is rooted in fear of armed blacks.

The "businessmen and women" involved want their cake and eat it too. They know that posting signs will drive away business, so they want to stop the bill and not have to worry about posting signs.

No shortage of socialist parasites who want government to do their work for them.
 
It should be noted that "law enforcement" has opposed nearly every pro-RKBA bill sent to the legislature, including CCW back in 1994. Every one of the LEO's points, and the points of the Restaurant Association were addressed and stuffed down their throats. In turn, they were asked to show criminological support of their claims. In three years, they couldn't do it. They were also asked to show proof that insurance rates would go up. They couldn't.

They were asked how vetoing this bill respects the private property rights of shop owners who wanted to cater to gun owners. They couldn't do that either. Under this bill, all that the shop owner had to do was post a sign, which is what other non-alcohol-selling shops do now.

The Governor Lied.

Rick

The Governor's Veto Message
Today I vetoed Senate Bill 1363, which would have allowed patrons to carry loaded firearms into bars and restaurants.

I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and consult its plain
language when analyzing gun ownership rights. When it comes to common sense gun safety issues, however, I am particularly interested in the views of the law enforcement community. Arizona's law enforcement organizations have consistently opposed this legislation, and their concerns have not been addressed by the sponsors of this bill.

I am also sympathetic to the concerns of property owners, including the owners of bars and restaurants that would be adversely affected by this
bill. Again, the property owners' concerns must be addressed in any future
efforts to legislate in this area.

For these and other reasons, I cannot agree that Senate Bill 1363 should
become law.

Yours very truly,

Janet Napolitano

The link to Governor Napolitano's message in PDF format:

http://www.governor.state.az.us/press/April2005/042505~VetoMessage1363.pdf

To send an email message to the Governor:

http://www.governor.state.az.us/post/feedback.asp

To call the Governor:

Telephone: 602-542-4331
Toll free: 1-800-253-0883
 
From Tucson-based NRA BoD, Todd Rathner...
he Governors Veto message can be read here:? http://www.governor.state.az.us/press/April2005/042505~VetoMessage1363.pdf?

What a bunch of garbage.? The NRA met with law enforcement, the restaurant associations, and the alcohol association to address all of their concerns. They would not budge on anything short of measures that would have rendered the law useless to gun owners.? Also, don't forget that "law enforcement" has consistently been against any good gun bills we have run. Including the original CCW Law which they vehemently opposed.? They said that "blood would run in the streets" if we had a CCW law in AZ.? 11 years and over 60,000 permits later? and they are still WRONG! They said that pre-emption would result in more crime...never happened.

The DPS lobbyist and the industry associations have lied over and over again about this bill. For three years they claimed that insurance premiums would rise for restaurant owners that allowed carrying of firearms and they could not produce one instance in ANY of the 33 other states where that was true. Not even a letter from an insurance company.? We have had no less than 6 hearings on this bill in 3 years and not one instance of an increased premium. DPS claimed that there will be an increase in violence, where is the proof in 33 other states? Wouldn't at least ONE of them try to repeal this law if that were true? None of those states has had any effort to repeal the law.

There were other lies but I don't have the time to address them right now. I wanted to get this to you quickly and may address the other lies later.

Todd Rathner

Member, NRA Board of Directors
 
I'll make sure I let everyone know that this individual veto'd the bill. I plan on sending her a nice e-mail.

I wonder, when she goes out to dinner, doe her body guards carry in the restaurant?
 
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I'm quoted near the end...but I said it prior to the veto.
Guns-in-bars bill vetoed
Napolitano sides with tourism industry rather than NRA

Robbie Sherwood
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 26, 2005 12:00 AM

Gov. Janet Napolitano said no on Monday to mixing guns and alcohol in Arizona nightspots.

Napolitano rejected a bill that would have allowed patrons to carry loaded guns into bars, nightclubs and restaurants as long as the patrons didn't imbibe. She delivered that veto along with eight others, rejecting more bills in one day since the 16 budget measures she vetoed last month.

The governor risks angering the National Rifle Association, which claims 100,000 members in Arizona and has lobbied for two years so gun owners could dine in restaurants that served alcohol without leaving their guns behind.

Napolitano said she is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, but she chose to side with Arizona's tourism and hospitality industry, the powerful lifeblood of the state's economy, and with major law enforcement organizations. They all opposed the bill, saying it would invite deadly altercations.

"Arizona's law enforcement organizations have consistently opposed this legislation, and their concerns have not been addressed by the sponsors of this bill," Napolitano wrote in her veto letter. "I am also sympathetic to the concerns of property owners, including the owners of bars and restaurants that would have been adversely affected by this bill."

Although Republicans hold majorities in the House and Senate, overriding the veto would seem unlikely. Lawmakers would need 40 of 90 House votes and 20 of 30 in the Senate. The bill passed with 36 House votes and 17 in the Senate.

Todd Rathner of Tucson, a member of the NRA's national board of directors, said that the bill will return next year and that he doesn't envision any attempt to water it down. He also said the veto could harm Napolitano's chances for re-election in 2006, adding that "law-abiding gun owners in Arizona have a very long memory."

"She says she supports the Second Amendment and supports law-abiding gun owners," Rathner said of Napolitano. "This was her first real test on that, and she failed it miserably."

But bar and restaurant owners such as Phil Miglino of Phoenix were ecstatic.

"We're happy she recognized that it's dangerous for our employees and for the industry as a whole," said Miglino, who owns Nixon's at the Esplanade. "It is also exciting for the recognition of the hospitality industry and how important it is to the state. You can't mess with the golden goose, which is tourism in Arizona."

Added Don Isaacson of the Arizona Restaurant Association, "We believe the state is safer today with the governor's veto."

But gun owner Rick DeStephens of Phoenix, an epidemiologist and "self-defense activist," said Isaacson and other opponents of guns in bars cannot point to any documented incidents of trouble with armed patrons in the 33 other states with laws similar to the vetoed Senate Bill 1363.

"What the (restaurant) association actually fears is that their members will no longer be able to hide behind a blanket no-firearms prohibition," DeStephens said.

"They will have to come out of the closet and state to everyone whether they want gun owners' money or not. They suspect that gun owners will take their money elsewhere, and they're correct in that suspicion."

Sen. Jack Harper, who sponsored the bill, hinted that Napolitano's opposition was rooted in an association early in her career with former Attorney General Janet Reno, whom Harper said "opposes the Second Amendment."

"I believe she is the same liberal she was in the '80s," said Harper, R-Surprise.

Eric Edwards, executive director of the Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police, said, "Guns don't mix with booze any better than driving has."
 
I'm not sure what the police and Restaurant Association members will do to stop those that illegally carry concealed weapons where they ain't supposed to. Maybe they think they can hide behind a sign????
 
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