CCW: S&W Model 13 or Ruger Security Six?

[Geister]

Yeah, but what I'm asking is if a Ruger's trigger will stack. I have no problems working on a gun's trigger pull but if the inherent design of the gun will cause the trigger to stack, I don't want it.

I mean a heavy trigger pull is okay to an extent as long as it's buttery smooth, but if it stacks, then forget about it.

 

[Confederate]

I have a 3" 13 and a 4" 65, that Speed Six would be a nice addition to my clan. I would love to find a 3" Speed Six in 9mm.

I would love to have a 9mm Speed-Six myself, but they are very, very, hard to find. As I understand it, Ruger produced it primarily to fulfill a contract with the Egyptian police.

Regarding the Ruger's trigger, the pull does increase slightly before firing; however, it's not significant at all. I love Smith & Wessons actions and both Smith and Ruger have astoundingly good actions. Out of the box, no; Ruger has a bit of a rough trigger. But dry firing will make the action as slick as a tuned Smith & Wesson's.

I had a beautiful, unfired Model 13 back in the '70s. I was poor back then, and I wanted a stainless Security-Six with a 6-inch barrel to go with my 4-incher. So I took the 13 down to the local gun shop and did a straight trade. As much as I hated to do it, I got the benefits of stainless steel, adjustable sights and Fort Knox strength. It was a no brainer...then. Had I known that Smith was going to screw up their line of guns in the next few decades, I would have waited. I don't think I ever would have fired the 13 (it was far too beautiful with its gorgeous bluing), but I would have kept it in a drawer for a home defense gun.

 

[nitestocker]

if you want to shoot hot loads like you saidthen defenently get the ruger 180 grs357 will shake a part alot of small frame smiths

 

[REOIV]

For you guys looking for a ruger speed six 9mm I have one listed on gun broker http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=71127691

 

[jad0110]

Just curious, what is the difference in width at the cylinder between a Ruger Six and a K-Frame? I ask because most people say that width (not length) has more impact on how easy a piece is to CCW.

Having held both side-by-side, the cylinder of the Ruger is clearly larger, but I was unable to measure it at the time.

As far as trigger feel is concerned, I do prefer Smiths but have owned a Taurus 66 that was quite excellent (except for a hint of stacking at the end of the pull). I've never owned a Ruger (hope to one day), but I've tried a number of different models at the range or handled them at gun shows, etc. There seems to be a LOT of variance in trigger quality with Rugers: some are Smith quality, some are well, pretty miserable. Just try before you buy!

One day I will get either a 2.5 or 3" K Frame or 2.75 ot 3" Ruger Security/Speed/Service Six. Haven't decided which, both are great guns. If you prefer adjustable sights (which the Security Six has), I'd save a little longer for the Model 19 if they are more expensive than the 13 in your area.

 

[Geister]

jad,

I've seen the same amount of variance with S&W triggers.

From my current understanding, I believe that Ruger never really bothered to smooth out the internal parts, and to compensate for that they simply installed a heavier spring in the gun. So, the result was the heavy, gritty trigger.

That said, I think the Ruger's trigger can be smoothed out and a lighter spring installed to get it pretty close to a tuned S&W. As long as the design of the internals do not cause it to stack, I think it will work great.

I'd rather have a Security Six than a Model 19 because I think the former is a better buy for the money. I considered a S&W Model 13 because I can find one easier than a Model 19.

 

[Diamondback]

I like them both....alot. To my mind....6 of one.....half a dozen the other. I'd buy the first one I came across in good shape at a fair price. Generally the S&W will have the better "out-of-box" trigger, but the Six Series Ruger's can be slicked up easily. I wouldn't feel poorly armed with either; if you're a real revolver fan you will probably end up getting them both....and then desire to add a 4" Colt Diamondback to the safe too !!

- Regards

 

[Dot_mdb]

I've had my Speed-Six for 30 years. The trigger has never been worked on and I consider it as good, possibly better than my Smith M-10s. The Speed is not a light gun. It is probably a few ounces heavier than the Smiths however it handles the .357 mag rounds easily.

I think that the Speed-Six is the best looking of the Six series with the older models more attractive than the later ones that had the metal removed behind the recoil shield.

I like my Speed-Six very much but I rarely carry it. It weighs as much or more than a fully loaded Glock 23 and the Glock carries and conceals easier.

Bill