changes in ammo?

[spankylives]

hi am new here. has anyone out there noticed changes in the consistency in their favorite ammo of late. i have been hunting with and plinking with remington.22 subsonic hollow points for years. here lately have become disappointed with them. i have used ammo from three different bricks in five different rifles . groupings have been all over the place at 60 yards.and also i've been noticing a very high percentage of "duds" . any where from 5 to 20% depending on the brick . you can actually hear the variation in the charges. i also noticed similar results with remington rifled slugs in my 12Ga. no duds but wild variations in charges . to the point that people that were standing near me noticed and said something about it before i did. what's going on with remington ammo. i have not had these problems with cci ,federal ,winchester or aguila ammo in either caliber. has anyone else noticed this ? at first i thought it was me or my equipment . that has turned out not to be the case. as soon as i switch ammo, problem solved (very tight groups), but as soon as i switch back i'm back to throwing stones being more accurate. maybe their quality control personnel are on strike or something. i am very disappointed . i've always used remington ammo with great results. with the economy in the crapper i can't afford to be blowing money on ammo that doesn't produce consistent results. my guns fill my freezer. so i guess from this point forward no rem. ammo.

 

[stubbicatt]

Yes. I've noticed this with some popular brands.

But I simply have to point you to the Aguila brand primed by Eley. Outstanding stuff, really. Smells funky but it shoots really well.

 

[Uncle Mike]

Simply put...Remington 22 ammo is just, bad!

 

[content]

Hello friends and neighbors // Yep, Remington .22lr brick let me down also.

I thought it was my pistol until I had a few duds shooting the rifle too.

I later bought a brick of Federal that has been better, so far, but not perfect.

 

[52grain]

Remington .22lr ammo is absolutely terrible. Unfortunately, its the most common stuff available around here. The only other choice that I can find in subsonic is Federal match grade ($$$). I usually buy the Federal 550 round bulk packs from Wally world. Easy to find, cheap, and I don't get lead all over my fingers.

Edit to add: has anyone tried the Winchester bulk packs?

 

[Al Thompson]

Winchester bulk packs

Yes, the "333" packs have poor QC too. So far, the 100 round boxes seem OK.

 

[Boba Fett]

I'm not a fan Remington anymore, not just for 22lr, but also for 9mm, 45, or any of the calibers I shoot. I have had more jams or duds with Remington 22lr, 9mm, and 45 than with any other brand I use (Federal, Winchester, CCI, PMC, Fiocchi, IMI).

I gave up on Remington about a year ago and haven't used them since. Disappointing to see an American ammo manufacture drop the ball.

 

[Turn Key]

New here (longtime shooter)...

The only 'Bulk Ammo' that I've had really good success with in .22LR has been the Federal 550 bulk box ammo, usually carried by Wal-Mart.

I found this Federal in bulk (525 boxes) on ammoengine.com last week. Cheaper Than Dirt had it for .03 cents a round.

The worst .22LR that I've run across is the Remington 'Golden Bullet' in bulk packs. Shooting at a 50 yards, I had some dropping at 25 yards in the dirt.

Keep shooting!

 

[Archie]

I shoot in a gallery league.

About the best, consistent and reliable .22 long rifle ammo I find is CCI standard velocity ammo.

Federal match and Remington ammo both give me about 10% mifire rate. Yup. One bad round every other string. Really stinks in a match.

 

[spankylives]

thanx everyone have any of you tried the winchester subsonics? i just acquired a brick and looking at them they appear to be much more uniform than the remingtons ie. all the hollow points are centered on the slug unlike the remingtons.gas checks seem to be more uniform etc. the aguil has been good for me also so has the cci subsonic . cci subsonic hollowpoints act exactly as advertised. the hollowpoints do exactly what a hollopoint is supposed to (expand and dump the energy into the target).anecdotally that is one of the only .22 rounds i've used on squirrels other than cb longs that didn't exit a squirrel quite often.

 

[spankylives]

i just rezeroed with winchester superx 40grain subsonic hollowpoints much improvement over the remingtons.

 

[swiftak]

The Remington 550 round bulk packs like walmart sells are really bad. The 100 Golden Bullet packs I get in a gun store seem to be a better quality.

 

[Maverick223]

Winchester seems to be a bit better (but what isn't better than Remington?), however if you step up to Aguila, or CCI subsonics...Federal 550 bulk is also very good (and CHEAP), but not subsonic.

 

[Mr. T]

That's just great! I just bought a pack of the Remington bulk .22lr in the 500 round container. I guess I'll have to check it out at the range. I normally buy the Federal rounds in the 100 round case. I just bought the Remington stuff, because the kids like to take the .22 to the rifle range and plink away. I will have to see how it performs...hopefully better than the results I'm hearing from here but I won't hold my breath. I wish I would have seen this before I bought it.

 

[Maverick223]

That's just great! I just bought a pack of the Remington bulk .22lr in the 500 round container.

You won't make that mistake again. ...but I wouldn't worry about it, it may shoot well in one of you rifles (or at least go bang and cycle), and if not you're not out much, just chalk it up to a learning experience.

I would use it in a lever or bolt gun for the kids to plink around with...is it dirty: yes, is it accurate: no, but will it cycle in a lever/bolt rifle: I sure hope so.

 

[Brimic]

I always like the Winchester T22 in my 541, 581, and Ruger MKII- shoots good in all. For the Mossberg 144 LSB target rifle, the federal bulk pack stuff (blue box) shoots pretty good, the Federal Gold medal much better, and Wolf MT the best.
CCI is good stuff in most of my .22s when I shoot it occasionally (often use the CB caps around the yard).

Edit: in our hunting camp last year, a kid missed a nice buck because the .35 remington ammo (remington manufacture) had a dud. His dad took the entire box and ran them through the rifle- 4 out of 20 rounds was a dud, and he was getting really solid primer strikes.

 

[Maverick223]

Not to say that you should pay a fortune for the best ammo available (Eley & Lapua for .22LR), but good, reliable ammo is very important...without it you have a costly club.