SgtScrounge
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The first rifle I ever bought was an SKS for $99. Wherever that cheap bastard is today, I am sure it has more than tripled in value, and still will kill a deer/hog/human out to 200+ yards.
I love the looks when I go to a public range and see the looks on all the plastic gun toters when I pull out some of my old Smiths. When there is a group looking I never fail to pull out an old 1954 Colt Model 357 that might have 15% of its finish left. It is butt ugly but what a shooter. I see the young guys snickering and poking each other looking at my guns (some of which are worth 4 times what their plastic Glocks are worth) and then I like to see the look on their faces when I start punching out bullseyes especially with my old beater Colt.
Shot a high-power match years ago. This old guy with an old bolt gun, the front sight was held in place with a hose clamp (I swear). Pretty much smoked us all. It was great watching him run that bolt in the rapids. Ya just don’t see that any more.
Cheep gun bashing. I try hard not to “bash” anyone’s gun. Where I draw the line is in recommending one. If you love your High Point, Kel Tec, or whatever, great. If you recommend one to a newbie as something they should use as their self defense weapon, shame on you.
You just bashed guns that some consider nice guns.
So what gun would you recommend? I see you love the G19. Sorry, I would not own one. Nice gun, but does not fit my hand the way I like. If I was a newbie and bought that gun under your recommendation, I would be pissed especially after spending that much money.
" One was a $200 revolver that needs a part I'm having trouble finding. "I'm not sure how many police turn-in and milsurp handguns I've bought online. Something like two dozen. One was a $200 revolver that needs a part I'm having trouble finding. All of the others have worked just fine. My police turn-ins typically have some holster wear, but examining the interior shows that most of them weren't shot much (maybe just for qualifying?). IMHO, day in and day out, the LE turn-ins and milsurps are the best deals out there. If I've bought 24, something like 15-20 of them were in the $150-$225 range. I think I paid $285 apiece for my Glock 22 and Sig P229 (both came with the box and extra magazines). As far as I can recall, those were my two most expensive specimens.
While I'm far from wealthy, I've been blessed with a successful business. When I started it years ago we had literally no extra income. I remember trying to scrape together $11 so I could buy business cards. If you've never been in the position of money being that tight, it may be difficult to understand. From what I've read, the consensus is that Hi Points are reliable. If someone's options are a Hi Point or nothing, I'd hate to see them go unprotected because of comments on a web site. I did pick up a Hi Point 40 carbine on a whim a few years back, as the price was too low to pass up. It's fun to shoot and has never had a malfunction.
I could not agree with your assessment any more...Have followed this thread quite closely after my posting about my little Davis. When I first started shooting 100 Yd Black Powder rifle competition, I had to use a Thompson Center 50 cal Hawken. (All I could afford, most were using custom rifles) I was ridiculed and laughed at many times. One guy even laughed out loud and told me I "Shouldn't shoot that thing in serious competition". I ignored him and went on to out shoot him on a regular basis. I was usually in the money! Sad to say I quit after two seasons. The reason? quite simple, I didn't want to continue shooting with a bunch of snobs, despite that fact I out shot most of them An older gentleman who had coached me,was also laughed at for his rifles, they were "home made" and he and his wife always finished really well at the Nationals. In fact he and his wife won the husband and wife event several times. So if there is a moral to the story its quite simply this. "Some can shoot darn near anything well and some cant shoot worth a darn with the most expensive firearms". . So lets all think hard about the criticism or assistance we offer..
Well one part of your sentence is correct.I’m sorry, unfortunately trying is not succeeding.
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Have you got a link to that video? I'd like to watch it.I watched a video on cheap handguns, and the comments were just out of control.
The topic of high point pistols came up, and one person was adamant that they were so dangerous to the owners that some states have outright banned them for carry.
I just don't understand the mindset that it is their duty to spread falsehoods in their quest to bash a brand of weapon. When I looked up what he was referring to, it was really the Illinois melting point law from the 1960s which everyone knew was an attempt to restrict the rights of all people to defend themselves, removing inexpensive options from their gun stores in a bad effort to curb shootings in Chicago.
Hi point pistols were sold in Illinois gun stores right up until 2017, so there are plenty of them still in the state, they just can't sell them over the counter anymore.
I look at it this way, the second amendment applies to all law abiding citizens, and we should defend that at all cost. It's not my place to tell someone else how to spend their hard earned money.
While I don't personally want to own or carry a high point, I will certainly defend that right, and it's up to the individual to decide if that is for them or not.
Well one part of your sentence is correct.
I honestly do not believe the brand name or price matters as much as whether the company will stand behind their product and has good QC, the firearm is reliable, and if the person behind the trigger can hit what they're aiming at.... For home defense purposes, if a Hi Point fits a shooters hands and they are efficient with it, why should it matter what company name is etched on the slide?I have some inexpensive guns and I have some guns that cost more. Most of the people on this board know how to work the system and find that $250-300 police turn-in, milsurp, or lightly-used privately-owned handgun. Just my random opinion, but I would expect that many people who buy on the inexpensive end go to the local big box gun store and pay full price for the Hi-Point or KelTec.
Great to give them advice on how to find a better gun for the same money, but that often entails use of internet auction sites or hard bargaining at a gun show. We all know how to do that. Some people in need of an inexpensive firearm for self defense may not have that knowledge, or the time to pursue the hunt. Think of someone with limited income and an immediate need.
I make an effort to never question another person's choice of firearm, vehicle, whiskey, or spouse. I'm even careful about giving advice on those topics if asked. Easy to give offense, hard to fix it if I do.