Found this Vaultz Portable Safe Box (14x9x8) on amazon for 65 bucks. It's light at 4# and all I needed was a sturdy window camera mount. Weighs 14# with 3 guns, ear pro, scope, window mount. Downside is its flimsy and probably won't take anybody to Camp Perry. I have two sturdier and heavier boxes. Steel Hyscore traditional box weighs 14# empty. Pics are of how I plan to use the small box depending on bench height. Also a pic of my other boxes.