Class Review: Utah CCW class with THR’s own Larry Correia

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I had the opportunity to take the Utah concealed firearm permit class from THR moderator Larry Correia on November 12-13, 2007. The class was given at the Lehi, Utah Cabela’s on Monday and Tuesday evening and was approximately 5 hours long. After taking some time to reflect on the class I would now like to post a review.

The first night covered basic topics including firearm operation and safety, shooting stances, shooting fundamentals, concealment holsters, and carrying options. It also included no-nonsense recommendations on CCW guns to stay away from, minimum defensive calibers, shot placement, and ammunition choice. The second night was equally divided between the legalities of carrying a concealed firearm and several role-playing demonstrations.

THE GOOD:
Mr. Correia was dressed professionally and acted in a calm, self-assured, and respectful manner. He did an excellent job showing what a responsible CCW permit-holder should act like in public.

Mr. Correia had a very effective teaching style that demonstrated an obvious mastery of the class material. At the same time, there was no macho gun store commando garbage. Mr. Correia made all of the students feel both welcome and comfortable. He took a genuine interest in making sure that his students learned and appeared to be having a fun time teaching the class. He used humor very effectively to put the students as ease and to maintain their interest during the class.

Mr. Correia did an outstanding job presenting condensed yet readily understandable discussions of handgun stopping power versus killing power and the physics underlying wound ballistics.

The class had a nominal fee of $40. In a very nice act of public service, Mr. Correia offered the class free of charge to active duty military personnel and to college students / instructors.

THE BAD:
There was actually very little that could be improved upon. I will mention two very minor things, neither of which was in the control of the class instructor.

1. A small portion of the material in the curriculum mandated by Utah wasn’t all that useful in a class designed as an introductory CCW class for private citizens. For example, there was no actual shooting component of the class yet the instructor had to discuss range safety rules. The instructor also had to cover the LEO escalation of force continuum. In a class only 5 hours long this time could probably have been better spent on other topics.

2. The inexpensive chairs in the Cabela’s conference room were very uncomfortable to sit in for 5 hours.

MOST USEFUL:
1. Mr. Correia delivered an excellent presentation on several real-life self-defense scenarios. In a non-judgmental way he discussed the various choices that can be made by a CCW permit holder in each self-defense situation (i.e., “head to the sound of the guns” and engage the lunatic shooting up the local city hall or take your family and run to safety etc.).

2. The discussion on the legalities of carrying a concealed firearm was very well done. It was both informative and understandable.

3. For me, the most useful parts of the class were the role-playing demonstrations on the second night. I won’t comment on the exact scenarios in order to maintain their teaching effectiveness for future students, but they were all very well done. The one I participated in really reinforced several key concepts of the class and also forced me to rethink my concealed carry options.

OVERALL CLASS GRADE:
A+

If you are going to take the Utah concealed firearm permit class, take it from Larry Correia!




Larry, thanks again for such a well done class.

DAT
 
Sounds like you had a great experience. Especially regarding the discussion of the nuts and bolts of CCW like holsters and gun choices. That is extremely valuable info and even a brief discussion of the subject with some real world examples can make a huge difference.

I expect.

I took my Texas CHL course this saturday. 10 hours and it sounds like we didn't cover as much of the nuts and bolts of concealed carry as you did. No discussion of holsters, no credible discussion of calibers or the realities of carrying. The instructor basically started off the class saying "this whole thing is BS, you shouldn't have to have a license to carry," ended it with, "I'm sorry you all had to go through all of this just to exercise a right guaranteed by the constitution..." and the other 10 hours were spent inefficiently glossing over the required knowledge to pass the test plus a little bit of how to shoot and quite a few stories that weren't exactly relevant. 6 hours of filler and 4 hours of material.

I did learn one thing: there is at least one person who thinks the ultimate home defense ammo is 12ga blanks. "So loud everyone on your street will hear it, and the plug thing that comes out can be lethal at indoor distances but won't overpenetrate." :eek: That's why I say no "credible" info... I won't fault his choice of a .380 because I'd have no problem with a .380 or 9x18mak but I seriously doubt he has gelatin tested shotgun blanks.

Sounds like if I was in or passing through utah I'd know of at least one good instructor to fill in some of the gaps. Very cool but not a surprise.
 
Thanks for the review.

I have taken a CCW class in the past but I am going to try and attend Larry's next class with my wife.
 
I took larry's class at FBMG a couple days prior. and agree it was a well taught class.
 
bogie,

I think he did briefly mention repelling the invading goblin hordes once in class. Unfortunately, the only time he really talked about monsters at length was when I asked about his novel Monster Hunter International after the class was over.


DAT
 
Thank you very much.

Honestly, I always appreciate feedback.

Sadly, the softness of the chairs is out of my control. :)

I really enjoy teaching the CCW class. There is just so much good information out there, and so little time, that it is difficult to find that balance of information and keeping adults entertained for five hours of me blabbering.

Bogie, sadly, I have to wait until class is actually over before I pimp my writing or my business. Just no time. We cover werewolves in the advanced class. :p
 
We cover werewolves in the advanced class.

Right. The basic class only covers zombies, and the slow moving ones at that. The advanced class coves werewolves and the "running" zombies.

Seriously though, sounds like a good class.
 
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