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I just got back from the CMP South store in Anniston Alabama. As you may know, the CMP stores just re-opened after a two week break where the store was closed. The place was packed! I've been to the CMP three times before this and it was nothing close to the crowd that I saw today. Folks were buying four, five, six or more rifles at a time. Good news for those of you waiting for an H&R Garand, they were back on the racks and in good number.

Me, I was there for a woodless M1 (to fill a recently restored extra stock) a couple of carbines, and another rack grade Garand. My goal was to find rack grades to fill the bill, and of all of the guns tha you see below there isn't muzzle wear above 1.75, most between 1 and 1.5. The top gun is a Springfield early January 1944. It looks to have some wild grain, and no cartouches, so a stock restoration is very much in order. Next down is a 699,000 serial number range Inland. It's an SA-49 rebarrel. The stock appears to be walnut and despite being faded appears to have a lot of potential for restoration. Again, no cartouches. A serial number that low at the CMP right now I'm told is uusual. Next down is a siz million serial number range Inlanc carbine. Nothing needs to be done to this one. I'm thinking that is an M2 pot belly stock? Possibly beech? And, at bottom is a woodless 5.7 million serial number range Springfield Armory Garand. I was told that I was lucky to find it as a lot of collectors want a 5.7 million serial number. I didn't ask why. The front handguard I can deal with.

The only minor disappointment was that the 2.4 million Garand turned out to be a 1944, about as early in 1944 as it could be. I already have a 1944 (and a 1942) and I really wanted a 1943. But, the gun appeared to be a diamond in the rough, so I couldn't pass.

Not a bad haul. I'll have a blast respoting the two stocks and dropping the new Garand guts into an already restored stock. The rear sight I can acquire at my leisure as I now have three other Garands to play with.

As to the inventory, there were tons of field grades, but I didn't notice much in the way of higher than field grades. What service grades that were there were selling like hotcakes. There were a fair amount of rack grades in both Garands and carbines. I checked the muzzle wear of every rack grade rifle probably at least three times over, and many were pretty darn shot out. There are really great deals to be had in the rack grades, but you have to measure wear carefully and really hunt. So many rifles with nice wood were shot out. I lucked out with my four rack grades.

I have some photos of the crowd which I will post later. I got there at 8:30 AM and it looked like a lodge meeting.

The staff at the CMP are amazing.

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Nice, I went to the north store during Camp Perry. It wasn't crowded but we had to wait about 15min before they let us in. I bought a special and 2 cans of ammo.
 
Here's some photos that I took on my cell camera. I got there at 8:30 and these photos were taken at about 11:30 when the crowd had thinned out considerably. Those are H&R field grade Garands that you se in the foreground of the top photo.

At bottom is one M1 carbine after some unexpected refinishing. I was putting some gun stock wax on it and the finish started to come off. I wasn't ticked off but somewhat relieved. The wood was in excellent condition and the finish was a bit "too good" in that it was glossy. I suspected shellac. So, the finish coming off forced me to do what I had really wanted to do: strip it. Denatured alcohol took it right off so I think it was probably shellac, but tinted shellac. The wood is now lighter but appears to be an oil finish underneath that, which I have now added to. Not bad for a rack grade with a muzzle guage of around 1.5.

My other carbine stock has been cleaned up and is soaking in the oil. It was parched.

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On another note, working on my M1 carbines really brings some memories flooding back. As a kid back in the Sixties a lot of our time was spent playing war. I don’t know if kids do that anymore, but we sure as heck did. It seemed back then like every moment when we weren’t playing football and baseball (and kissing girls) was spent behind a gun. We each had our own little arsenals, mine made up of military long guns and handguns, and a even few grenades and a bazooka and mortar thrown in for good measure. My handgun was invariably a Luger, and my long gun alternated between an M14 (that made full auto sounds), and an M1 Carbine. I remember each year getting a new one for my birthday, early on the rifle being as tall as I was. Life was good.

Then, one summer, life got even better. Right across the street they began to build a house. For some reason after ground was broken work stopped leaving us a series of large holes that we quickly put to use as foxholes and forts. Last night as I worked at refinishing my two carbines it brought back memories of laying in my foxhole with rifle at the ready, slung across my chest, laying in wait for my enemy to appear. They were such content moments, ones in a peaceful corner of the world, while men who had grown up on that very street, a few feet from where we fought our imaginary wars, were fighting and dying on the other side of the world to keep us free.

During the hours that I spent at the CMP on Wednesday I heard old soldiers talking about the rifles that they had used, some of them even Garands and carbines. As I walked through the rows of rifles I had to think of the stories that were behind them, and of the men that had carried them.
 
Good score. Very nice looking rifles you walked out with.

I do have to say that I was just the tiniest bit disappointed that you didn't go to the North Store. I am going there Saturday, and would love a better store report than what I have seen.
 
I had a guy tell me you it you were lucky you could get a Special Grade there, he said they had 6 or 8 of them there a couple months ago when he went, and have had that nearly every time he had ever been.

I was just wondering if you could confirm that, I was told you had to order them (the Special Grades), now I am confused.:confused:

Nice looking guns by the way.
 
As it turns out the older Inland 699,000 serial range carbine is finishing up really nice (photo to follow). It's going to look more used than the pot belly, with more dings, but the oil has really caused the beauty of the grain to pop out. It really soaked it up. I ordered a new butt plate for it as the current one is bent and I want something that will protect the wood better. It's obviously walnut and has stamps (LWU) indicating that it was made by Lumb Woodworking Co., who made stocks for Underwood and IBM. I bought "U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production" by Craig Riesch, a book that I recommend. I'm sure the Duff book is good as well.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again after four trips to the CMP. Take full advantage of the expertise and knowledge of the CMP staff. They will bend over backwards in helping you to pick out the right rifle. They offer accurate and impartial opinions. They aren't salemen and they do a spectacular job. A first good step is to trade your drivers license for the gauge tools to measure muzzle and throat erosion. The first thing that I do is run down the line checking each rifle for muzzle gauge. Since the gauge at the muzzle is generally considered to be most important, I use that for the first cut. Then, I look at the throat erosion. I think that with stocks you really need to look at them not only as to current condition, but also as to restoration potential, if that's a possibility for you. There seems to be a lot of rifles that guage very nicely but are aesthetically challenged that will clean up/restore very nicely. I try and look past what I am seeing. I see guys choosing their rifles without the benefit of gauging tools and I'm baffled. Some of the nicest looking rifles can have some really bad gauges, and vice versa. Going on looks alone is pretty much worthless, at least for me.

Also, if it is your first trip to the CMP read very closely the requirements to qualify for purchasing and bring at least the documentation that is necessary. They don't make exceptions no matter how far you have traveled to get there.
 
One other thing, to purchase from the CMP you have to belong to an affiliated club. The list of clubs is huge, but I'm not a club kind of guy. So, I did what many do and join the GCA, Garand Collectors Association, right there at the CMP (for $25) which allows you to purchase that day. Today I got my membership package from the GCA, along with a quarterly journal, and I'm really impressed. I joined to satisfy a technicality, but I'm glad that I did. The journal alone is well worth it.
 
Just to demonstrate my point that you can't always judge a book by its cover at the CMP, here is a before and after photo of my 699,000 serial number range Inland (with Springfield 1949 barrel). If you would have seen it with the other rack grade carbines at the CMP it would have been one of the last ones that you would have picked up. But, as it had muzzle erosion that gauged under two, I then evaluated it further and decided that the stock could be restored.

In the lower two photos the stock is shown about 3/4 way through restoration. Sanding was dead minimal with most of the work involving multiple coats of tung oil alternated with Watcos Danish Oil finish. The wear to the rifle is still evident, as I like it, really not much different from the top photo. The oil really brought out the grain as well as the stamps. The rifle, in person, looks clean and well maintained, but still showing the evidence of its history of use. This was a gun easily overlooked.

Of course, how it shoots will be the next question.

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