Colorado Elk Hunt...what gear?

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i believe that the scarpa sl m3 is the finest backpacking boot on the market
if i were backpacking in the rockies id wear them
id do the same in your situation also get nice merino wool socks several pair
 
When I talk with people on gear for a hunting trip, I look at from a guide's perspective. That said I'm sure alot of people view things differently. The reason people pay for a guided hunt is not just land access and a higher success rate on any given species, it is because they feel comfort in knowing that the hunt will be as safe and comfortable as is possible in any weather condition. Typically when we set up in the fall we operate out of a spike camp. Some outfitter's I have worked for do have lodges in the heart of elk country but as a whole, more often than not we operate out of wall tents. Running through archery season to the last gun hunt of the year. Naturally the area around a camp gets hunted heavy early. Rather than moving our main camp half way through a season, we simply use the main camp as a base point. From which we branch out and set up smaller secondary camps, our backpack hunt setting up overnight shelters as needed.

All of that said, hunting in high counrty is tough on the body to say the least, so every pound counts. However I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Many people are critical of suggestions towards packing on the heavy side, but you will not be carrying the gear you entire trip, just in and out. Now with any luck you will both be packing out two large boned out animals. Unless you compete on the world's strong man competitions I seriously doubt those two animals will come out in one trip. Plan for more than just one in and out. Since you will hopefully be making more than one trip, why not pack in the extra gear you may need if things go wrong? You have a pretty good list of basic items already in your pack from your above mentioned posts. Here are some other things I recommend.
An axe. Not a hatchet. So much stress is put on a good knife in the back country, when in truth an axe has served me far better over the years in situations that would almost be considered "survival". Which is what one should always prepare for when hunting anywhere in the world. Fisker makes the best I have run across so far. (Yes the scissors company) It is light weight, and unlike the litterally hundreds of other I had before it, I cannot break the thing.

Next item is lots of socks. (Lots) The terrain is rough. When your feet sweat, you will rub your feet raw even in the best boots. Stop and change socks every couple of hours. This simple thing can make or break the comfort level of a hunt. The rest of what I would mention has been covered very well by yourself, and everyone else. The stove you are bringing is great in that it may need to be a heat source should things turn ugly up there. One more backpacking trick I will mention is carrying two light weight tents. Your body heat will cause condensation on the walls of the tent you sleep in, not to mention the tent may leak. Setting up a 10X10 tent with an 8X8 inside of it remedies this, and keeps you and your gear dry. It is also easier to heat if the weather gets cold on you.

Good luck, and goo hunting.
 
guiding, thanks for your input. What types of socks do you prefer? Will I need both warm weather and cold weather socks? Hunt is mid-october in colorado.
 
socks=smartwool (x2 / day)

Honestly temps could be in the 80's or well below freezing, sometimes in the same day and often within only hours of each other.
 
Regardless of details or lack of them:

I have had some really bad nights due to lack of planning and goodies.

Regardless of number of pack-in trips required, I would not want to be there without a 3 season tent and a water purifier.
 
Along with all of them socks, don't forget a good roll of moleskin. As to pack weight - whatever you can comfortably carry at sea level, cut that in half or by 3/4 at 7-10,000 feet without major struggle - and remember, if you're lucky enough to get the elk, you'll have that much more to pack out. EVERY ounce counts! If you haven't been doing stair drills, start now and progress to doing them with your pack weight (include rifle) to the point that, at sea level, you can run up the stairs.
 
Xman,
Socks of the wool variety seem to work well in cold weather. I steer clear of the neoprene/ seal skin material. In october the temps can drop into the single digits at night at those elevations. If you are moving around, the most important aspect is to keep your feet dry. You can jog in tennis shoes at below zero, it is when you stop that you get cold. From your post above, I feel the Danner boots you have will suit you well that time of year. Keep your feet dry, and if they get cold, get moving again. Another great buy is socks with reflective material woven in. Often called "space socks", they are thin in comparision to wool socks, and even when wet they do seem to add some degree of warm. Pull them over a good set of thin wool, and your good to go in light weight boots to below zero, as long as you stay dry. Thickness of socks really only comes into play when sitting. Too thick and you will not have room for your feet to move, or "breathe".

Remember, take what ever you think you need to be safe and comfortable. If it takes you a couple of trips to pack out, so be it. I would rather kill a spike on the last day and be comfortable and happy, than kill a monster the first day and be miserable.
 
Just a note about the photo of the guys with the red jeep: Nowdays it is totally illegal to go offroad to load a big game kill.

Those are from my dad's old hunting photos, circa 1961. They always used to use Jeeps and pickups, until CO outlawed the use of them. I have my dad's 1956 CJ5, after they outlawed the use his Jeep sat in dry storage for 30 years. I'm currently restoring it, it's in really good shape for the age. But I can remember him grousing about them not being able to take the Jeeps anymore. I'd love to try elk hunting, but I'm just not physically able to hike in mountain terrain or sleep on the ground anymore.
 
Rondog,
In many parts of the outter edge of elk country, a good portion of the hunting can be done via horse and mule. The only time you truly have to hunt by foot is when the timber gets thick. It is truly amazing what a mule can do. If you can walk up it without jumping up onto outcroppings, or crawling under snags, the mule go there. Many places rent trained animals for hunters to use, and it is fairly cheap to do. The advantage of riding a horse/ mule is your ability to carry more comfort gear in and out. And it is surprising how comfortable an army cot with air matress can be. Also late season hunting can be great for those who prefer to stay out of the high country. Snow pushes the animals down into more managable terrain. Now walking in snow is almost as bad as heading into the high country, but typically the snow stays in higher elevation levels first. Timing is everything. Just some food for thought.
 
Wool socks

A few years ago, someone in my family bought me a few pair of wool socks. I still haven't arrived at the need to pack them into the woods. My feet stay warm enough with plain cotton jobs.

I prefer waterproof "hiking boots" to any "hunting boots" that I've sampled.

YMMV
 
I small lightweight LED headlamp can be the most useful tool. Either water purification tablets or a purifier. Lightweight MSR stove and lightweight cook tools. I personally like lightweight wool socks because heavy wool socks make my boots fit tight and actually make my feet colder. And don't pack anything cotton to wear against the skin. Danner boots have served me well, they still keep my feet dry, but after 7 years, either need to make a visit at the cobbler's or be replaced, they have been through quite a bit, just make sure they have lots of ankle support, you don't want to roll an ankle with 80 lbs on your back. A sharpening stone. Whatever you pack in, make sure it is light and high quality, because after hunting for a week and possibly packing out an elk or two, 10 pounds extra packing out your camp will feel like 30.
 
Does anyone think I'll need 2 pair of boots. Like I said, mine are 600 or 800 Thinsulate lined, and I am just worried that they might be too warm. I guess better warm than cold.
 
I would not add a second pair of footwear to my pack for cash money. But I always have a pair or two of alternates in the truck that is parked at the trailhead. If the weather is warm and the ground is dry, I might hike out one day and swap the hiking boots for tennis shoes.

You might not think you'll be hiking back out for anything, but if you aren't onto the elk, you'll have tons of time on your hands and hiking out to swap some gear, or just to put away excess baggage will be a good way to spend a few of those midday hours.
 
Footware depends on the type of hunting you are looking at doing. Sitting on a waterhole bank, or long periods of glassing, your feet can get cold if the temperatures dip. For the most part I stick with one pair of boots and multiple pairs of socks, as you can carry quite a few pairs of socks vs. one pair of boots. The standard boots I have run for years are Irish Setters with 800 gram thinsulate. If the temps are warm, you will sweat in tennis shoes moving around those mountains.
 
I have not seen game bags mentioned. If you are successful you will have the amount meat of four deer. This is top quality meat and you need to take care of it. If the weather is warm can you get it to a locker before it sours?
Some thought should be given to this. Maybe prior arrangements to have it packed out. The size of a big bull can be a revelation when you are 6 miles from your truck.
 
Good catch, WYcoyote. You'll want some good quality, thick, elk / moose size game bags. Stay away from anything that looks like cheese cloth. If you're boning out to pack I'd get 2 packages (8 bags) so you don't kill your back.

When you get into town look for a processor first, find out when they're open, if they can hang your meat in their cooler, etc.

When I hunt 3rd season it's typically cold, so we hang the meat in some shady dark timber for 4-6 days depending on the temps to tenderize the meat. 2nd season however can often be warm and you'd need to get the meat out ASAP. This just has to be played by ear for best results.
 
Yes I will third the game bags. I would not skimp on these. I bought some from sportsman's warehouse and they bled through:(. so make sure you get some good ones. In October and High country you should have some cool weather but if it is warm I would make sure to have a plan to get them meat out fast and to a locker, esp if one of you still has to fill a tag. If it is cool you can use a good cooler with plenty of ice at your truck.
 
I don't see mentioned a compass. I see that you have a GPS but often in elk country in October you can find yourself in a snow storm or heavy cloud cover when your GPS won't work. A compass will work regardless of the weather.
 
I bought some from sportsman's warehouse and they bled through:(.

Is that bad? My game bags have been used, washed in the washing machine, the wife has sewn them back up, and they've been reused now for years. They're blood stained with character. What's wrong with that?
 
Igloo make a really big one that could hold a boned out animal, or at least most of it.


I was just hoping the game bags would hold up a little better and not let the blood just run out of it.
 
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Gear can wait. First you must get in shape for the altitude and rough country.

Excellent well broken-in boots, quality socks, clothes to match temperature and conditions are very important factors which are often overlooked. Decent binoculars like Bushnell model H20 in 10X are very helpful and a new pair costs less than $175.

Any good rifle will get the job done. I prefer a short carbine such as 30-30 or .308 for my rough country hunts but each to his own I say.

Good hunting to you.

TR
 
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