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That Senator's opponent stood in my living room last fall and asked me to help him, he is a great guy, regretfully I told him I was happy to vote for him but I was too busy with work to get out and help him...he lost to that liberal windbag by 109 votes...

Never again.

The 2014 election cycle starts now.
 
Sent to all of those listed:

I am writing to you because I am concerned about several of the current 'gun legislation' bills that have passed the house and are now in the senate.

To cover my concerns:

HB 1226 - Campus Carry Ban: It is unproven that 'gun free zones' stop violent offenders, to the contrary most mass shootings occur in such areas. Why should college students be unable to defend themselves just because they are in college? They can do it in just about any other location legally. It seems that part of 'protecting our kids' is allowing them to protect themselves.

HB 1229 - Background checks for private sales: While it is understandable that people don't want others selling guns to 'bad' people, I'm pretty sure this legislation is not going to actually do any good. It actually makes it harder for citizens to afford guns, thus acts as a sort of 'poll tax' keeping them from practicing their 2nd amendment rights. Private citizens must go to a FFL dealer in order to conduct a private sale, which the dealer get's to charge a fee, seems like a government give away to dealers, allowing them to make more money. As I'm sure you are aware, there are many times more murders committed with knives and blunt objects than there are committed by firearms, so singling out the private sale of firearms while not requiring special licensing, registration and background checks for other inert objects that cause even more injury and death does not really make sense, it's easy to see it as an agenda driven item, rather than actually caring about cutting back crime. In addition, this legislation appears to make colorado go beyond our normal CBI background check, and use the federal system. I see no need in using the federal system, it is known to be slow and ineffective, thus potentially putting an undue restriction on law abiding citizens in terms of waiting times.

HB 1224 - High Capacity Magazine Ban: Why 10 rounds? What is this arbitrary number? First off, many guns are designed with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds... they are not 'high capacity' they are 'standard' capacity. I realize the driving force behind this legislation is the desire to 'get rid of' 30 round AR-15 magazines, but as hopefully you have heard, that wouldn't reduce much of anything. Of the numerous murders that happen with guns in this nation (still far less than with knives and bats), a small fraction occur with rifles, and of that, a fraction of a fraction occur with what the media terms 'assault weapons' which is what this legislation is aimed at. Think about it, even if you could remove ever 'assault weapon' from American society, you might have stopped a dozen or so deaths out of thousands. You'd get better results if you banned knives.

Yes, it is said by those that support such legislation that this would cause less deaths because psychopaths that go on shooting sprees would have 'less bullets'. I'll draw your attention to the VA tech shooter that didn't have an AR-15 or 30 round magazines, he had many handguns and many more loaded magazines and quickly and effectively changed magazines and continued to shoot people. The time it takes to swap out 10 round magazines is negligible, and will not decrease deaths by mass shooters. From what I understand the Aurora shooter had a 100 round magazine, and as anybody familiar with firearms knows, big magazines have more of a tendency to jam, and the Aurora shooters did jam. Let's take a trip of the path of reality and pretend he was a law abiding psychopath and there was a 10 round max magazine limit already in place.... considering the split seconds it takes to drop a mag and load another, and that everyone in the theater was in shock, he probably would have killed even more people as a 10 round mag is far less likely to jam than what he used.

There are several issues with the other bills being proposed as well, but I'm hoping by now you kinda get the point of this letter. I want you to protect the Second Amendment rights of me and every other citizen of Colorado and vote NO on all of these bills which will not stop mass shootings or reduce crime. I welcome a real conversation about mental health and how to spot and stop those that might commit such crimes in the future, but these bills are the wrong path to take.

My friends, family, neighbors and co-workers are all paying attention to what is going on in Denver with these proposed bills, and we will work very hard to support those that support our Second Amendment rights and work to unseat those that do not, in the next election cycle.
 
Possible win in Colorado...

Rollie Heath, the state senator from the Peoples Republic of Boulder may pull his bill banning CCW on college campus. The Denver Post is reporting that he does not want it to go to a floor debate because he does not have the votes to get it passed. The Dems have a 20-15 advantage in the Senate of Colorado, but need 18 votes to get anything passed. 2 rural Dems and at least one other have come out against this bill, that coupled with some less than polite treatment of a rape victim by a Senator (female senator no less!) during a hearing seems to have turned the tide on this one. Keep banging away at them boys and girls, this aint over yet.
MR
 
Rollie Heath, the state senator from the Peoples Republic of Boulder may pull his bill banning CCW on college campus. The Denver Post is reporting that he does not want it to go to a floor debate because he does not have the votes to get it passed. ...

It's not that he thinks it's a wrong headed bill; it's that he does not want the press having to say that the pro-gun side won a vote.

chuck
 
The mag limit ban is still in play....but... 2 Dems -Jahn and Tochtrop will vote against it. This gives the Dems 18 votes. 3 Dems-Giron of Pueblo, Jones of Louisville and Newell of Littleton are undecided. If any one of those 3 vote against it, it dies. Pueblo is a pretty reddish purple district, so there is a good chance this goes the way of the dodo. Maybe magpul can stay! Keep pounding your state senators boys and girls, lets stop the madness.
MR
 
Several of us have a Town Hall meeting with Sen Newell in the AM. She sounds a little wavey on the subject.
Dan

9AM at Blueberry Cafe on Littleton Blvd.........anyone care to join us?
 
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The mag limit ban is still in play....but... 2 Dems -Jahn and Tochtrop will vote against it. This gives the Dems 18 votes. 3 Dems-Giron of Pueblo, Jones of Louisville and Newell of Littleton are undecided. If any one of those 3 vote against it, it dies. Pueblo is a pretty reddish purple district, so there is a good chance this goes the way of the dodo. Maybe magpul can stay! Keep pounding your state senators boys and girls, lets stop the madness.
MR
Sounds like a lot of pro-firearm tourists need to write letters to these three Senators and let them know that if their vote were to be the one that led to this being passed, said tourist will never spend a dime in their state. People get hung up on the fact that yes, they listen to their constituents, but at the same time, tourism is a big money maker, and funds a lot of taxes that the locals don't pay (hotel tax, rental car taxes, etc).
 
I wrote some to the point and courteous emails. I hope a few more follow suit.
 
We're Watching In Other States, Too

What can people from other states do to help out? Alot of people think CO is run by lefties, and it won't happen other places. I don't like the thought of a snowball rolling downhill, out of control.
 
at this point, not much anyone can do. Send your last email and watch the show.
 
Sounds like a lot of pro-firearm tourists need to write letters to these three Senators and let them know that if their vote were to be the one that led to this being passed, said tourist will never spend a dime in their state.

That's a good idea, but I'd focus more on their districts (assuming they have any tourist industry in their districts).
 
We win one!

Colorado Senate President John Morse killed his own bill last night. Senate bill 196 would have held firearm sellers liable for the behaviors of the downstream buyer. He blasted the usual suspects (THE GUN LOBBY) for his bill being a non starter once it got to the Senate floor. Keep it up boys and girls, the pressure is starting to take effect, lets keep derailing the other feel good do nothing bills being debated. I doubt we will win on every one, but it's a good start! Banning CCW on campus is in trouble, and the blowback from the magazine ban issue is also having a positive effect. Emails. Letters. Rallies. Personal visits. Keep the pressure on!
MR
 
While I think 1229 is potentially the most harmful bill in the long run, 1224 is the one that has to be squashed at all costs. I'm afraid that if 1224 passes it will drive too many pro-liberty people and businesses from Colorado and negatively impact future elections.
 
Yet Another Win!

State Senator Rollie Heath from the Peoples Republic of Boulder killed his bill banning CCW on college campus. Geez- the Denver Post is just chock full of good news this morning. Every co-ed in Colorado should be doing a victory dance. KEEP THE PRESSURE ON! It's having an effect.
MR
 
Well that’s some good news. I just drove over to the town hall meeting only to find out it had been canceled. I left feeling discouraged that we weren’t having any effect whatsoever.

This stuff works after all.
 
About 30 of us showed up...no Senator....seems she cancelleled meeting.
I am unable to find any listing of this cancelation....
The 30 of us had a strategy meeting on the bills in play.
Some of you worked all night and still came, my thanks.Truly govenment with out representation!
Dan
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I got exact, word for word duplicate responses from two of my Democrat representatives (both women). They are not even reading our correspondence.

I didn't move to California, California moved to me. It's like a termite infestation.
 
The committee votes to get the bills to the floor of the Senate were all on party lines. Once the rest of the votes were counted informally and the results were assured, two very bad bills went away. Make no mistake, pressure counts. Dems will vote against these bills if what they are hearing from their districts is overwhelmingly against. It takes 18 Senate votes to get a measure passed, two Dems are against most of the proposals, several from redder districts are leaning towards keeping their seats even if it means not toeing the party line. Pressure works and pressure counts, keep pouring it on.
MR
 
Influence Colorado!

At the urging of a friend who lives there, I've emailed my thoughts on the gun debate to each of Colorado's state legislators. While I'm not a resident of Colorado, my family and I often vacationed there before all the anti-gun foolishness erupted. I wanted to pass along to the legislators that something akin to hell freezing over or the complete cessation of attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights would occur before we ever set foot on Colorado soil again.

I have compiled the email addresses of all listed legislators if you'd like to do the same. Merely copy and paste the following into the address field of your email, compose a short message (perhaps detailing your refusal to visit the state or knowingly purchase goods and/or services originating from there), then send it along so that your feelings will be made known:


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... Make no mistake, pressure counts. Dems will vote against these bills if what they are hearing from their districts is overwhelmingly against. It takes 18 Senate votes to get a measure passed, two Dems are against most of the proposals, several from redder districts are leaning towards keeping their seats even if it means not toeing the party line. Pressure works and pressure counts, keep pouring it on.
MR

To some degree it matters who's in office, but it matters more how much pressure they're under from the public. -- Noam Chomsky
 
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