Colorado gun control

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Thanks to Dem. Senators Tochtrop and Jahn for voting against the mag ban.
Did they vote FOR the other bills?

I'd like to send them Thank You emails for voting against the mag ban, but if they voted for the other bills, I want to also tell them that I'm disappointed about that.

[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]

If anyone else wants to join me in thanking them, their addresses are above. Tochtrop has a few, one of which might not be correct.
 
The domestic Violence vote (no firearms for those with DV restraining orders) was approved 20-15 on a straight party line vote. The bill banning online CCW certification was passed 22-13. Universal Background checks passes 19-16, Tochtrop voted against it. Background check fees passes 19-16, Kerr (Lakewood) was the only Dem. to vote against it. Magazine size limits, well we know that score.
MR
 
If you live in Colorado don't think your alone. I'm from NY and we have been railroaded the same way you have. Don't listen when folks try to tell ytou this is your own fault. Just email, petition, protest, and speak out.

We may be getting an injunction against our new maddness (not the old. Yet.) because of our constant pressure on politicians. Email, Call, Protest, Petition, and get your counties to pass legislation in protest. Your civil rights lawyers will be looking to make a name for themselves in no time.

Keep fighting. Your not alone.
 
McLaughlin might be rethinking his stand on these bills because the folks in his district filed a recall petition with the CO Sec of State a couple of days ago. The recall for Morse (Senate Pres) should be in the Sec of State's office today, if my source is correct. For those of you in Pueblo, the local Republican party is having a meeting TONIGHT at 6 pm at Montgomery and Stewart downtown to discuss a recall petition for Giron. Scott Gessler (the Sec of State) will be there to discuss the legal and technical aspects of a recall, and some reps from Co Springs and Durango who initiated the other two recalls are supposed to be there for advice, also. Be there if you can.
 
If you check the 2008 and 2012 data, only half of Colorado residents even bothered to vote. This 50% split is projected across gun owners as well. That means half the people now whining about the gun bans didn't even bother to vote in the last two elections for Senators, Representatives, Governor, etc..

This shows how important it is to vote. Gun owners lost by a single vote.
 
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Let's stay focused on what can be done to stop these before they get to the signing stage and what can be done to fight them if that fails.

The recall idea is a very valuable one. McLaughlin, Morse, Gessler recall efforts were already mentioned. Is this a coordinated effort or is this just random groups within the districts? Is there one key politician that all the effort should be focused upon like knocking a keystone out of a wall to weaken and collapse it?
 
Recalling Hudak and Salazar seem like the easiest targets as they were the ones caught up in remarks that had to be walked back. They've got a black eye in public and can be thrown out based on insensitivity.
 
I won't go into too much detail but there are some factors to take into consideration when deciding who to recall: how many signatures would be required and by what margin they won by.
 
Based on McLachlan's comments, it's at least worth beating the drum in advance of the two bills going back to the house.
 
Please tell the CO Governor and the legislature about your plans to not come to the state if the gun bills are signed. HB1224 on magazine limits is on the way to him. HB1229 on background checks was sent back to committee for rework, but may still make it through the legislature.

Here is the Governor's address:

http://www.colorado.gov/govhdir

Here is the list of all CO state Representatives and Senators:

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Mike
 
Sent him a "please please listen to Coloradans" email.. I doubt it will make any impact though. WHEN (not if) he gets voted out of office I'm sure uncle Joe in DC or uncle Mike in NY will have a nice BS job for his obedient servant from CO.
 
From Magpul's FB page today;

The Governor's office is still tallying emails for and against the gun bills that have been passed, in order to inform Governor Hickenlooper of public opinion on whether they should be signed into law or not. Let him know that they should not!

Use the contact form at http://www.colorado.gov/govhdir/requests/opinion-leg.html to register your disagreement with HB1224 and the other gun bills. Please keep your message brief, polite, and to the point that you oppose HB1224 and all other anti-gun legislation, and urge the governor to VETO these bills.

I wrote even though I'm from PA, and advise every member to do the same regardless of state.
 
Everyone in colorado contact hickenlooper now.

Sample messages
i am a small business owner in colorado.

Please veto hb 1224.

Research has shown that this legislation will not reduce crime.

But we know that it will hurt colorado's economy.

My own business interests may have to move out of state if this passes.

i am a small business owner in colorado.

Please veto hb 1229.

This bill is so poorly worded that it's not even clear that you can relinquish control of a firearm to an airline while flying out of or in to dia.

My own business interests may have to move out of state if this passes.
 
Just let the governor know that if he signs Hb1224 that I will never set foot in Colorado.
-some guy in Ohio
 
While its said the proposed law is to reduce mass shootings like sandy hook, has any testing been done to confirm this will actually help? It seems that school security is lacking if a 20 year old can force the door in, I don't see the death toll being lower with a pump shotgun, or even a single shot.

If schools had actual security doors installed, that "attack" would be a page 4 story about a guy shooting at the front door and then killing himself as police arrived.

The whole gun ban is a cover for the governments liability for failing to secure schools.
 
Here's the email I sento Hickenlooper

Dear Gov. Hickenlooper,

As ski enthusiasts, my family and I frequent CO (various resorts/mountains) annually to ski and have thoroughly enjoyed our experiences over the years.

Having said that, we also are very intentional with how and where we commit our resources. Given the recent legislation, we will no longer visit Colorado for our vacations (and will be sure to convince all of our friends to do the same) if these draconian bills are signed into law.

Candidly, I hope that Magpul (and others) also vote with their resources and relocate their business to another state. Sometimes it is necessary for actions, versus words, to demonstrate how truly serious we are about our rights.

Drafting, passing and enacting laws based on emotion versus factual/logical impact is simply unacceptable and is contrary to effective governance. "See what I did to protect you?" is not a valid platform upon which legislators should campaign. Sadly, career politics have poisoned the well.

We sincerely hope you will consider these circumstances when you weigh whether or not to sign these "gun control" bills into law. As drafted, and in my humble opinion, none will have a significant impact on the intent and infringe on rights granted to us by the Bill of Rights.

Respectfully,

XXXXXX
Orlando, FL
 
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