Comparator: Did I just waste $70 for nothing?

Do you EVER use a bullet comparator to load rifle cartridges?

  • Yes, a Hornady Comparator

    Votes: 29 51.8%
  • Yes, Sinclair or other

    Votes: 5 8.9%
  • No, I used to, but stopped because it didn't matter

    Votes: 3 5.4%
  • No, I've never bothered to try one

    Votes: 17 30.4%
  • Other, explain below please

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Total voters
    56
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Great question Otisrush. I was fine with the accuracy at present for most calibers I load but reloading is certainly just an interesting hobby to me so I am always experimenting/trying to improve. With the 224Valk I'm getting ready to try longer distance and so thought it'd be worth a try to wring whatever I can out of them. In other words, it wasn't necessary, but seemed like a good waste of my time and money.:D

Someone here on the forum made a memorable comment about accuracy tuning that I'll paraphrase. "Charge is the big knob, CBTO is the little knob".

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comparator- Head to datum.

Find a case that contacts the shoulder near the datum. Use as a comparator between fired and sized bottle neck cartridges. Remove primers.

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I never got one because when I tried chasing the lands in a 260 and seated accordingly, I was never able to out shoot the ammo. If you got one, use the heck out of it. I wouldn't feel bad about the purchase.
 
243winxb: thanks for the link. I always assumed the Lee seating plug contacted the bullet tip. If it contacts the ofive then that just means the Lee 224 Valk die just fits the bullet profile well, as someone else suggested. Explains a lot.
 
@OP, I think my use of the Comparator may differ from how you are using it. I am using as a means of comparing my handloads to a reference cartridge. That reference is often a hand loaded cartridge itself. And depending if the rounds will be fired from a magazine I may NOT use the Comparator at all.
Key point: The Comparator is mostly useful when comparing the SAME bullet used in multiple cartridges. Generally, do not use it to compare different bullets. Even two FMJ bullets from two different manufacturers do not have the same ogive so comparing them will result in different measurements.

Here are my reasons to use the Comparator...
Consistent case volume: Because of bullet tip malformations (see right two tips in the below pic) the COAL measurements alone will not tell you if two (identical) bullets are seated the same in two cartridges. This can be significant if your are near max charges. Seating the same bullet based on COAL will result in the bullet base being at at different heights within the case resulting in different available case volume for the powder charge. This means two cartridges with the same COAL will develop different pressures when fired even if the charges are identical. Using the Comparator you can ensure the length from case head to ogive is the same even of the COAL is different, providing more consistent case volumes which translates into consistent velocities.
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Repeatable length when COAL is not critical: Except when you are at max allowable COAL for your magazine, you probably want to use the Comparator as your tool for comparing the length of completed cartridges. As shown above, the lack of consistent tip shapes can greatly affect the COAL measurements, but have no effect on the Comparator measurements. This allows a reference cartridge (or just the reference measurement from a reference cartridge) to be used to recreate the same Comparator length. Useful when you are constantly changing the seating die setting every time you change the bullet being loaded. Since buying my Comparator I still capture the COAL for my reloads but also capture the Comparator length and usually use it as my target to recreate the load.

Don't use Comparator when fitting a max length cartridge into a magazine. A few of my magazines strictly limits the COAL to 2.260". 2.262" COAL cartridges will usually jam in the magazine. As shown the variation in COAL can make consistency difficult with LEE dies. For these reloads the focus is not consistent volume in the case but rather not exceeding the COAL. The Comparator cannot tell you this. When loading heavy bullets that need to be loaded at 2.260", I use my calipers to make sure the COAL is 2.260" or slightly less, so the rounds don't get stuck in the magazine.
 
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Strange I saw this one today. I use mine for headspace all the time. Never had much luck getting consistent on ogive though. My anvil came in today with my 264 insert. Readings are near perfect bullet after bullet. Anvil made all the difference getting brass lined up straighter.
 
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