CONFESSIONS: What Did You Do... crime and punishment

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^^^^^^^ Yeah that stuff gets quite unstable when it drys out! I thought I was the only one to make a "small" batch-----or two.:eek: Don't forget the homemade Tannerite before there was such a thing. Then putting a 5 lb sack of flour on top of the jar and shooting it with the aut six. Those times I stayed camping out in the back 40 for a week before I came home to let things settle a bit.:p
 
My cousin Mike was sort of a bad kid, and after getting in more trouble than normal a judge told him he could go to jail...or join the Marines. He joined the Marines (in 1968). Viet Nam, etc. But came back a changed person (for the better). He ended up joining the Air Force and ended up serving on Air Force One for many years, and retired as an E8.
 
My cousin Mike was sort of a bad kid, and after getting in more trouble than normal a judge told him he could go to jail...or join the Marines. He joined the Marines (in 1968). Viet Nam, etc. But came back a changed person (for the better). He ended up joining the Air Force and ended up serving on Air Force One for many years, and retired as an E8.

Most "kids" are looking for boundaries from the get-go. They do not feel secure (or loved) until they find and establish these boundaries. This is where parents are failing today, for whatever reasons, by NOT establishing these boundaries early on, and IMHO, is a major factor behind many of today's horrible mass shootings.

Back in the day, if a "child" had not identified the boundaries by the time he was of age to serve in the military, he/she was given a choice.......military or reform school......either one perfectly capable and willing to provide them a road map.

OTOH, in today's society, witness the need for "safe spaces" for college students. REALLY? Never heard of a "safe space" in the mid 1900's!

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"No boundaries.......no security."

Regards,
hps
 
We rarely get the parents we would like to have. In my case my dad was a widower that managed to get custody of me when my mother died. Since he was a widower the only woman's influence I had with the visits from my grandmother and the grandmother types at church. Then stir in his brother who had three or four engineering degrees and a Peter Pan complex. In short, at home I had this stern and dour man who I still suspect has the words duty and responsibility tattooed on his gluteus maximus and just down the road an overage teenager with a complete metal shop and a penchant for building Gatling guns. Not to mention certain other devices that meant he needed several licenses from the BATF. Then just for giggles and grins, throw in my grandfather who thought we were still living in the nineteen thirties.

As for misusing guns, equipment or livestock… I just didn't dare. When I was being taught to shoot a handgun I started out with this little twenty-two caliber nine shot revolver. I was just getting to the point when I could hit the target when my dad comes up behind me and just as I'm about to fire, shot his old army revolver about five foot away. Needless to say my shot did not hit the target. I was in given standard parental lecture #18 which concerns constant awareness of your surroundings when working with dangerous equipment.

The closest I came to serious youthful hijinks involved riding my horse to town. A certain city policeman took offense and tried to pull me over. Long story short by the end of the incident the Sheriff's office was involved and dad got a phone call from the Sheriff describing in detail how insulted he gets when the 320 horsepower interceptor he was so proud of gets outrun by a twelve-year-old girl on a one horsepower mare... In retrospect I learned a valuable lesson that animal byproduct always flows downhill and that I was at the bottom. In that particular case I not only had to cut the brush out of the fence rows, but take a garden rake for the dead grass. Afterwards dad decided one string of fence needed to be replaced and he decided to make Gramps happy and make a board fence. And just to make sure it fit the old man's sensitivities he talked Gramps into supervising me. It was then I discovered that Gramps had a severe case of OCD when it came to the height of wooden fence posts in particular and the model of board fence in general.

I won't even talk about the time I shot an arrow into the air… And it came down through the cab of a tractor. Enough to say when an encounter starts off with stern parental glare #5 it is not going to be a good day. Neither will I mention the time that my uncle taught me how to make ammonium nitrogen tri-iodide (an explosive compound) but neglected to tell me that the amount for exploding targets is measured in grains not ounces.

My dad had very clean fence rows…The sad part of it is... unless my son and my nephew straighten their act up soon my brother and I are going to have even cleaner ones.

This is a great reflection ...thanks for sharing. What part of the world were you living in?
 
Most "kids" are looking for boundaries from the get-go. They do not feel secure (or loved) until they find and establish these boundaries. This is where parents are failing today, for whatever reasons, by NOT establishing these boundaries early on, and IMHO, is a major factor behind many of today's horrible mass shootings.

Back in the day, if a "child" had not identified the boundaries by the time he was of age to serve in the military, he/she was given a choice.......military or reform school......either one perfectly capable and willing to provide them a road map.

OTOH, in today's society, witness the need for "safe spaces" for college students. REALLY? Never heard of a "safe space" in the mid 1900's!

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"No boundaries.......no security."

Regards,
hps

Nice! ...should anyone know what a "safe space" really is, please let me know because I seriously don't get it at all. Near as I can tell ...it's an area where all humans are treated like eggplants?
 
OTOH, in today's society, witness the need for "safe spaces" for college students. REALLY?
Yeah. It's beyond sick. There's only one "safe space" any sane person will ever need or want and that's called "home". If someone is not mature enough to handle the reality and the world in general, (s)he should stay there and disconnect all communications until (s)he does.

In any case, my youth was littered with explosives and flammables. Whatever could be detonated by a passing train or tram without causing any meaningful damage, went on the rails. Rifle primers, cap gun ammo, 1oz propane tanks, coins, whatever. We probably caused a good half a dozen different tram drivers to soil themselves, some on several occasions. Never got caught, though.

A bit later on I managed to order Anarchist Cookbook from late, legendary Paladin Press. It didn't take long before we became regular customers in local pharmacies and chemical suppliers. Cooking PETN at home, filling 110lb fertilized bags with diesel fuel at a gas station (nobody cared back then and there were no CCTV cameras), mixing bag after bag of iron oxide and aluminum powder in a blender; the works. Surprise that we didn't manage to blow ourselves up.

To celebrate one new year, we decided to take some 550lbs of ammonium nitrate a few miles out to the ice on frozen sea, use some anite (mining explosive) as a start charge, and all we had for a timer was ten feet of fuse cord. About three minutes to GTHO. We had a snowmobile and a pull sled to transport everything.

Once the charge was set up and the fuse lit, we took off. We knew this was going to be a serious boom so we hid behind boulders on the shore of a nearby island, about a quarter of a mile away. No-one could expect the magnitude of the blast, though. It was serious. It made a 300ft diameter hole in the ice and blew the (fresh) snow off any tree within half a mile or so. And, fortunately, obscured the snowmobile tracks in the snow to the blast site. Despite the distance, it was close to blowing out our ear drums.

A few minutes later we were celebrating "the biggest blast EVER" when someone thought they heard a helicopter. Yep. And not a small one. We hastily retreated back to the island when the chopper arrived. A full blown coast guard Super Puma, with searchlights. We spent the next couple of hours hiding, in 0°F weather, waiting for the helicopter to run out of gas when it hovered above the blast site and swept all nearby islands with searchlights. Eventually it left. Fortunately they didn't have decent thermal cameras back then.

Oops.

Never got caught but learned a lesson. That was the last major bomb I ever made. I've toyed with the idea of passing the knowledge and experience of bomb making to my kids but knowing how many times I was >this< close to blowing myself (and the house, maybe half the neighborhood) up without even realizing it myself at the time, I rather not. Household chemicals are best left uncooked.

No wonder I ended up marrying a chemist, D.Sc. at that.
 
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Well, My greatest firearms sin has been switching from 1911's to Glocks, I have since learned my lesson :evil:
I did then go to Sigs so make up for that act and have been absolved :D
 
Got really good at making my own black powder and fashioning it into "hand grenades" with aspirin bottles and some fuze. My brothers and I got the chemicals by mail order in the 1960's. We graduated to potassium chlorate for more pazazz.
Experimented with red phosphorus with my mixture one day. Mixed it and put the aspirin bottle in my breast pocket. Carried it one mile to the city dump to test it. Put on top of a 55 gallon drum and lit the fuse/ It blew a hole in the drum! Excitedly I exclaimed to my high school chemistry teacher that we had invented a new explosive. He commenced to explain that phosphorus in mere contact with the oxidized will spontaneously explode by itself. I could'a blown myself in half in the trip to the dump. The worst kind of Bubba in Michigan.
 
Yeah. It's beyond sick. There's only one "safe space" any sane person will ever need or want and that's called "home". If someone is not mature enough to handle the reality and the world in general, (s)he should stay there and disconnect all communications until (s)he does.

In any case, my youth was littered with explosives and flammables. Whatever could be detonated by a passing train or tram without causing any meaningful damage, went on the rails. Rifle primers, cap gun ammo, 1oz propane tanks, coins, whatever. We probably caused a good half a dozen different tram drivers to soil themselves, some on several occasions. Never got caught, though.

A bit later on I managed to order Anarchist Cookbook from late, legendary Paladin Press. It didn't take long before we became regular customers in local pharmacies and chemical suppliers. Cooking PETN at home, filling 110lb fertilized bags with diesel fuel at a gas station (nobody cared back then and there were no CCTV cameras), mixing bag after bag of iron oxide and aluminum powder in a blender; the works. Surprise that we didn't manage to blow ourselves up.

To celebrate one new year, we decided to take some 550lbs of ammonium nitrate a few miles out to the ice on frozen sea, use some anite (mining explosive) as a start charge, and all we had for a timer was ten feet of fuse cord. About three minutes to GTHO. We had a snowmobile and a pull sled to transport everything.

Once the charge was set up and the fuse lit, we took off. We knew this was going to be a serious boom so we hid behind boulders on the shore of a nearby island, about a quarter of a mile away. No-one could expect the magnitude of the blast, though. It was serious. It made a 300ft diameter hole in the ice and blew the (fresh) snow off any tree within half a mile or so. And, fortunately, obscured the snowmobile tracks in the snow to the blast site. Despite the distance, it was close to blowing out our ear drums.

A few minutes later we were celebrating "the biggest blast EVER" when someone thought they heard a helicopter. Yep. And not a small one. We hastily retreated back to the island when the chopper arrived. A full blown coast guard Super Puma, with searchlights. We spent the next couple of hours hiding, in 0°F weather, waiting for the helicopter to run out of gas when it hovered above the blast site and swept all nearby islands with searchlights. Eventually it left. Fortunately they didn't have decent thermal cameras back then.

Oops.

Never got caught but learned a lesson. That was the last major bomb I ever made. I've toyed with the idea of passing the knowledge and experience of bomb making to my kids but knowing how many times I was >this< close to blowing myself (and the house, maybe half the neighborhood) up without even realizing it myself at the time, I rather not. Household chemicals are best left uncooked.

No wonder I ended up marrying a chemist, D.Sc. at that.

Great history ...with a happy ending. I enjoyed reading that! Thanks.
 
My father was a career military officer and I was lucky to see a lot of the world when I was youngster. Although I have many stories I could tell, all somewhat firearm related, I'll focus on one that happened when I was 10.

In the summer of 1962 my dad was stationed at Ft. Knox, KY which, at the time, was a Army Basic Training Facility and home of the Army's Armored School. My father had the rank of Major and we had a duplex in one of the on base housing areas

Army kids make friends pretty easily as we are all in the same social class and went to the same schools and many of the neighbors were families my parents knew from other places where my dad had been stationed. In a few days my brothers and I had new runnin' buddies that showed us all the cool places we needed to know about. One was a creek behind a playground that flowed through a wooded area for a couple of miles and led to a 50 yard long large concrete pipe that you could walk through most of the time. The pipe went under a road and came out on the other side into one of the training areas.

We didn't find stuff all of the time but enough times to lure us back adventuring a little further each time. C rations were the big prize, cigarettes you know, and, something that would help me out nine years later, knowing what boxes contained the better meals. In the two years we lived there we found a lot of things. Canvas shelter halves, entrenching tools, gas mask bags, lots of tent pegs, spools of commo wire, ponchos, steel canteens with the small chain link to the cap, web belts with suspenders, a sleeping bag, a backpack full of porn magazines like Swag and Gent and other things. My buddy found a bayonet once but it had been out in the elements for awhile. Still, for us, a cool and impressive find. No firearms or live ammo but we did find an artillery simulator once. My older brother was the voice of reason and we left it alone.

One day my brother and I found two ammo boxes filled with linked blank training ammo. This was almost sixty years ago so my memory has faded but thinking back I swear it was 5.56 but as the M16 isn't belt fed and wasn't put into service by the military for a couple of more years it probably wasn't 5.56. More than likely it was 7.62 M 60 ammo.

Anyway this was serious "treasure" for us so what did we do? Why we draped it around our torso's like Ponco Villa picked up the empty ammo cans and walked home thinking we were hot stuff. In the woods by the playground we ran into a couple of kids we knew and they were impressed unlike my father who went ballistic when he saw us looking like a couple of old school Mexican bandits. After realizing that it was training ammo he cooled down and the questions began. We never spoke about or incursions into the training areas so we lied and told him we found it down by the pond which was a place we were allowed to go. He put all the ammo back into the cans and we never saw it again. It was a good thing we had two witnesses who saw us and could verify our find to others on the school bus because that boosted our "street cred" for a awhile. Good times.
 
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This isn’t my story, I read it on a tool message board years ago and it has stuck with me. It isn’t about intentional hazardous behavior, but it is a shining example of a higher power protecting idiots and children.
The original teller of the story was one of several grandchildren who would go to visit a widowed grandmother on a regular basis. While the adults were upstairs talking about grownup things, the kids would all go to the basement and take things out of grandpa’s old wood toolbox to build “stuff”. When it was time to go home the tools would be careless tossed back into the toolbox.
The day finally came when the grandmother passed away. Sometime not long afterwards the family was getting things together to empty the house for sale. The father came out of the basement white as a sheet and told everyone to get out of the house NOW. He then called the police, and the police, after hearing what he had to say, contacted a nearby Army base.
Grandpa had been some type of construction where explosives were part of the trade. In the bottom of the toolbox that kids had been tossing tools into for years was several sticks of dynamite sweating nitro, and a couple boxes of blasting caps. A bomb squad managed to remove and dispose of everything without createing a crater where the house had been.
 
One of my first fairly legal trucks was a '64 International crew cab. I got it from a hippie farmer who tried parachute jumping and hurt his back. After that, the old truck rode too rough to suit him.
After I got it home, I set in to clean it up.
It was a mess - the guy had actually set up a burn barrel in the bed of the truck! The back of the cab was actually scorched!
When I set out to clean in and under the back seat I found a couple of crushed and scorched blasting cap boxes, complete with their somewhat degraded contents.
When I quit shaking I very carefully transported this mess to the nearest river and sank them in the deepest spot that I could find... .
 
The original teller of the story was one of several grandchildren who would go to visit a widowed grandmother on a regular basis. While the adults were upstairs talking about grownup things, the kids would all go to the basement and take things out of grandpa’s old wood toolbox to build “stuff”. When it was time to go home the tools would be careless tossed back into the toolbox.
The day finally came when the grandmother passed away. Sometime not long afterwards the family was getting things together to empty the house for sale. The father came out of the basement white as a sheet and told everyone to get out of the house NOW. He then called the police, and the police, after hearing what he had to say, contacted a nearby Army base.
Grandpa had been some type of construction where explosives were part of the trade. In the bottom of the toolbox that kids had been tossing tools into for years was several sticks of dynamite sweating nitro, and a couple boxes of blasting caps. A bomb squad managed to remove and dispose of everything without createing a crater where the house had been.


We didn't have to worry about that when my Uncle died. Five very unfriendly men from the government came and cleaned out the magazine of not only anything explosive but the tables and cabinets as well. I honestly believe if Dad hadn't known where the caps were stored they would have ransacked the house and storage buildings. I also remember them trying to tell my cousin (the executrix and an attorney) that two Gatling style guns and a muzzle loading cannon were NFA items subject to confiscation. My Gramps complained no-one made popcorn for that little argument.
 
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When my gramp had stumps to remove, he'd cut a 1/4 of a dynamite stick, and POP went the stump. In those days you could buy dynamite at the hardware store, you had to tell what you wanted it for, and sign a register, but that was about it.

He kept blasting caps in a desk drawer, with other sundry bits like loose .22 and K31 rounds, old Swiss Army knives, bolts and nuts, mysterious tools and coins from all over the world.

I nicked a few caps, I was eight or something, and tried to get them to go off, but did not have cord. It's only a few years later, when more technically savvy, and having gained some wisdom through various Badabooming experiments, that I actually blew one for the first time. I had stuck it into the ground outside my parents' kitchen. Looking at the 8" hole left in the lawn by the tiny implement, I retrospectively paled, thinking of all the times I had held one of these between my fingers, trying to blow it up... I could almost feel my guardian angel smacking the back of my head, growling "You see???"

My father administered justice with a switch. Bad news, bad memories. That would leave purple and blue welts across your thighs, and sting beyond necessity (honestly, I still resent the excess... Having raised kids of my own, I know that you can discipline a kid without going beyond some pain threshold, but that's another topic...).

Well, there was that time when my younger brother and myself, 8-10, had done something serious. Very serious. I can't remember what - and I tried - but one thing was sure: we had overdone it, and we were in for a serious session. Dreading the unavoidable, we postponed the return home as late as we could, till dark. I had an idea, not a great one, but that's all we had. We sneaked over the fence, moving as silently as Injuns on the war path, and went through the garden, from bush to bush, from tree to tree, saplings and all, breaking off absolutely anything that could have been used as a switch. Everything. Broken into tiny little pieces, patiently.

We then showed up on the porch, and my father came out from his study. There was not much of a scolding, even though I still can't remember what the deed was... We were so definitely guilty that the trial was over before it started. My father went out to pick our retribution (a switch has to be freshly picked, dry ones break...), and we waited anxiously.

Time passed, slowly... A long time. I don't know what went through his mind as he was going through the garden, bush to bush, tree to tree, but he came back red in the face, fuming, and silent. Empty handed.

We got a double dose, administered with the carpet beater... Which, for those in the know, is a kid's joke compared to the vicious bite from 2 1/2' of freshly plucked hazelnut...
 
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mljdeckard: "And I teach my concealed-carry students, don't kid yourself about hiding stuff from your kids. The only thing preventing your kids from finding where you hide things is the amount of free time on their hands."

^^^ This is true ^^^

I remember being around 10 and "playing Army" at a friend's house with a pistol his Dad brought back from the War and kept "hidden" in a dresser drawer. We thought it was a Nazi Luger (I'm pretty sure now it was a Nambu, based on the Japanese flag I remember it being wrapped in). Was it loaded? I have no idea.
 
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Yeah. It's beyond sick. There's only one "safe space" any sane person will ever need or want and that's called "home". If someone is not mature enough to handle the reality and the world in general, (s)he should stay there and disconnect all communications until (s)he does.
Amazing how true this is. When I lost my wife, I reverted to using my house as a "safe space." I never really knew when I would lose it, but I always needed to be ready. At that point, it's not that you're not mature, it's that you've lost a part of yourself and are no longer whole. It takes different people a different amount of time to feel that they're themselves again, and can venture further away from the house. At 3 years, I'm still not at a point where I can spend the night somewhere else.
 
Amazing how true this is. When I lost my wife, I reverted to using my house as a "safe space." I never really knew when I would lose it, but I always needed to be ready. At that point, it's not that you're not mature, it's that you've lost a part of yourself and are no longer whole. It takes different people a different amount of time to feel that they're themselves again, and can venture further away from the house. At 3 years, I'm still not at a point where I can spend the night somewhere else.


I know what you mean - I lost my wife of 47 years the end of May.
I won't say I'm anti - social, but I'm not far from it.
Far safer to hide behind a key board......
 
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