Converting a 1911 .45ACP into full auto

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aakoksal

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Hi all,

I know it is politically not correct, but just wondered if there is any safe way to convert a 1911 Government .45acp into a full auto shooter?

Regards,

Akin
 
I am pretty sure it has been done.
At least I have heard of it being done.

However, there is no legal way for someone that is not a manufacturer to do it.
 
Thanks for the reply,

I wonder if there is any schematics / reference for such a modification. I would really enjoy going over them...
 
There have been several attempts to make a .45ACP 1911 style full auto. Basically I think the most successful decided to go with .38 super instead of .45 due to recoil control.

As for the legality of doing this, it is more then politically incorrect it is downright illegal unless you have the proper manufacturers paperwork from the BATFE.

So basically it is possible, but highly illegal except under very certain licenced circumstances.
 
Not only is it a serious violation of federal law that will get you sent to prison, it is absolutely silly considering 10 round magazines are all you will be able to get for a gun with a cyclic rate of about 850 rounds per minute. 7 tenths of a second or so burst is all you will get between reloads. Would be positively useless other than for grins and wasting ammo.
 
Aside from legality, such a conversion is not practical. I have fired both an Astra 903 (copy of the Mauser C96) and a Star Model M .45 (1911 type). The former had a shoulder stock and a 20 round magazine. As in most cases of handgun-size machineguns, only the first shot came anywhere near the target and with the Star the 8 rounds went so fast that trigger control to limit the burst was not possible. (In a sub gun, bolt mass plus weapon mass (weight) help keep control, plus muzzle brakes, foregrips, and other added gadgets.)

So, a full-auto M1911 type pistol is possible, but neither practical nor easy. Remember, both pistols were made selective fire at the factory. A conversion would not be easy, since a requirement is that the pistol be fully locked before the hammer is released for the next round. That is fairly easy with the Star, which has an external disconnector operating on the sear bar; it would be very hard to do with the M1911's internal disconnector. Simply filing the sear or similar "tricks" might produce sporadic full auto fire, but with no control at all and probably no knowledge by the shooter whether the next trigger pull would produce one shot, two shots or no shots.

The Star pistol is pictured in several books, including Small Arms of the World. I know of no blueprints or instructions for the manufacture, or for converting a standard M1911.

Jim
 
I know someone that is selling a full auto S&W handgun in 9mm if you are interested.
Getting him to call you back takes more time than the tax stamp will.
 
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Seen a few that were unintentionally converted after a botched trigger job...but that's another story. This one seems to border on an attempt to gain explicit information on an illegal firearm modification. Sorry...but it's closed.

aakoksal...Welcome aboard.
 
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