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CZECH 7.62X54r Training Ammo

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  1. GunnyUSMC

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    SG Ammo has gotten in some Czech 7.62x54r Training Ammo in stock. A 912 round Wood Crate is $300. That's around $0.33 a round.
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    https://www.sgammo.com/product/surp...-surplus-46-grain-hollow-core-low-recoil-ammo
    It's Hollow Core Short Range ammo that is supposed to be accurate out to 200 yds. It has light recoil, about like shooting .223 Remington.
    If you have a Mosin, this is great ammo that the kids and grand kids can enjoy.
    I was down to my last 500 rounds so, I ordered a crate this morning.

    If you have an SKS, SG Ammo also has the Czech 7.62x39 training ammo for $300 for a 1560 round crate.
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/surp...us-46-grain-hollow-core-low-recoil-ammo-762-r
     
  2. Scooter22

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    Oh thats good stuff. I have to see how much 54R I have left. Also have some of the x39. Great stuff. Accurate at 100yds and no recoils. Plus it sounds full power. I know I payed under 100 bucks a case back when. I'll see if my son wants to split some.:thumbup:
     
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    Will the 7.62X39 cycle an SKS or an AK ?
     
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    Mostly. It's been awhile since I used it. I have 2 Norinco Paras, 1 Tula Russian, 1 Yugo SKS,s and a Rom SAR-1 AK. I think I had some issues with the Yugo. The Paras and SAR-1 ok. I don't remember with the Russian.
     
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    They actually have 9x18 Corbon HP ammo, that's impressive.
     
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    Thanks for posting that pic, Gunny, it answered a question for me.

    While re-orging some of my ammo heaps last month, I found that I had such a sealed & boxed 912rd 19 kilo case of Czech 7,62x54r sitting upon two sealed & boxed cases of 800rd 24 kilo cases of Czech 7,62x54r. o_O :scrutiny: Hmmmm ...

    I had it on my List for future investigation.

    I had completely forgotten that I had a full, unopened case remaining of that ammo. :)
     
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    They both sound like good deals, are they corrosive?
     
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    From the SG Ammo description for 7.62x39: Corrosive Berdan primer, magnetic projectile.
    I have used the x54r version and it is an enjoyable change from the standard round. It is also described as corrosive, but the difference between ball and practice ammo recoil is even more noticeable.

    I routinely do a corrosive cleanup with eastern bloc type equipment, because most ammo is corrosive and some that was claimed to be noncorrosive isn't.
     
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  9. GunnyUSMC

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    Shooting corrosive ammo is not as big a deal as most people make it out to be.
    I've been shooting corrosive ammo for over 30 years and have never had a problem. I just use a magic liquid called water to clean after shooting. I know that some people have all kinds of different ways to clean after shooting corrosive ammo, but 99.99% of those ways use water.
     
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    I use water while still at the range but follow up with #9 when I get home. Then a patch of LSA and I'm good until I shoot the next time.
     
  11. Scooter22

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    I,m one of the Windex crowd. The little bit of soap cuts the soot better in my experience. I swab down with it at the range. A sloppy patch of it at home then clean as normal. Never had any corrosion problems. Don't forget the gas assy on semi autos. I've seen some real nice SKS on the ouside with the gas assy all corroded up inside.
     
  12. czhen

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    Thank you Gunny
    Mostly I tried to avoid corrosive ammo as much I could in the past.
    Carry a bottle of Windex around it is not funny nor tactical on the range.
    I will check SGA they are my ammo source mostly.
    The ammo box looks good.
     
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  13. GunnyUSMC

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    Yes. That blue dye in Windex is what does the trick.;)
    For every surplus rifle I shoot with corrosive ammo, I put two patches in a Ziploc bag and add water. Most often I use whatever bottled water I have on hand.
    After shooting I run two wet patches through the bore. I then run a dry patch and then an oil patch (CLP). I then pack up and go home. When I get home I clean as I would with any other gun.
    With the SKS you just need to wipe off the gas piston with a wet rag, swab the gas tube and swab the gas port on the gas block, then wipe down with oil.
    Now if you ever find yourself without water or Windex, there are other things you can use.
    Soft drinks
    Coffee
    milk
    Spit
    piss
    Or just about anything that has water in it. Just remember that corrosive ammo was use in combat weapons for years. Most often there was no Windex or hot soapy water.
     
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    I like Ammo Crates. That is one reason I ordered a crate.
    Do not fear corrosive ammo.:evil: It's easy to clean up after.:)
     
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    IMG-20190701-WA0005.jpeg Resized_20190701_180615.jpeg IMG-20190701-WA0005.jpeg Resized_20190701_180615.jpeg Gunny thank you for those tips, (already saved in my tips folder.)
    Same here I love ammo wood boxes more any other cans, but bring dust around the house (wife complains, per her words she loves visiting army museums but not living on it.)
    With no intention of derail your thread, here are some pics of last TLC done before going to a safe place.
     
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    The "corrosive" part is the potassium chloride that remains after the potassium chlorate (the oxidizer in the primer compound) gives up its oxygens to the reaction.

    Potassium chloride, like sodium chloride (a.k.a., table salt) is very hygroscopic and, so, readily enters water solution and then can easily removed with same.

    Potassium chloride, by itself, will not harm the steel in your firearm components but if there is any humidity present it will absorb the water vapor to begin a rustfest.

    For those who may not have known ... ;)
     
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    This stuff used to be dirt cheap. My father bought a couple crates of the 54r for 7 cents around from knob Creek in the mid 2000s. The 7.62x39 is tempting but I hate cleaning corrosive ammo is a semi auto rifle! This stuff is filthy and very corrosive but fun.
     
  18. czhen

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    The cleaning has to be done right and fast otherwise the rifle become wall hanger.
     
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    Yeah I shoot corrosive ammo out of bolt guns and handguns all the time. It just takes forever to clean a gas operated semi auto rifle because the stuff gets everywhere! I can clean 5 bolt guns in the same amount of time it takes to clean a SKS after shooting corrosive ammo. I gave up shooting corrosive ammo through semi auto rifles. Now I would like to have one of those Japanese Arisakas that were converted to 7.62x39 by the Chinese. That would be a blast with this ammo!
     
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  20. czhen

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    I have a bandolier of ammo for my German Mauser and I don't use for that matters, someday I will sell it (Lazy to carry around the shows).
     
  21. Scooter22

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    Yes. That blue dye in Windex is what does the trick.

    I thought it it was the Ammonia D. But I have to confess I get the generic stuff from the dollar store. I just give it a little sniff to see if it makes my eyes water. If it does I know it's good.:D
     
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    I use the same test for hot sauce... :eek:
    ;)
     
  23. GunnyUSMC

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    Look at what was waiting for me when I got home today.
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    Gunny, even the crate is cool!
     
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    I would buy for the crate, in a heart beat.
     
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