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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Col. Plink, Oct 2, 2009.

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  1. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Member

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    Looking at one in .40s&w, excellent condition, owner wants $400.

    Good deal?

    Thanks, Czechsters!
     
  2. BP Hunter

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    That sounds like an EXCELLENT deal...but what is it's condition? How many rounds fired? Any modifiactions done? How old is it? How many owners had the gun had? Is is stolen?:neener: A brand new one go about $550+. The CZ75b in .40 is actaully on my next purchase list.:p
     
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    WOW! Looks great. You'd better buy it before I do.:D
     
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    Question on the CZ-75B: does it accept the double-stack magazines? This one comes with two 10-rounders (single stack, I'm assuming) but the description of CZ-75 pistols on the CZ-USA website says it accepts the hi-cap double-stacks. Does the CZ-75B?
     
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    The CZ web site says that the 10 round mags are standard and I believe they are double stack.

    The pictures are clear and the gun looks new. The seller doesn't seem to be hiding anything and I'd say $400 is a good price.... IMO, of course.
     
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    I guess I'm still trying to figure out if the CZ-75B takes double-stack magazines...don't know what the magazines for the 'compact' are referring to. CZ has a lot of different model #'s beginning with 75; what can the 75B take? Thanks!
     
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    it's a double stack. the 10 rounders are reduced capacity, possibly for a state that only allows that many, but you can pick up some with a higher capacity (12 or more).

    if my current financial situation was different, i'd be beating you to the punch right now. and if you don't make up your mind soon, i'm guessing someone else here will.
     
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    This is a bit of apples-to-oranges, but my 9mm CZ85 is a double-stack. I believe it carries 15 rounds. It MIGHT be 17 round, but I only load 15 (three rows of five cartridges).

    I suspect the .40 is double-stack with a mag with a tall follower to not allow more than 10 rounds.

    Then again, maybe not...do the math and the size difference of the cases almost compensate for the difference between 15 9mm vs 10 .40.

    Glad I could help muddy the waters.

    Oh, by the way, IMHO $400 is outstanding. I gave over $475 for mine, and it's an older model still imported through Philly, not KC.

    Q
     
  11. Col. Plink

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    Way ahead of you, Texas Bulldog; I've expressed my desire to do bidniz and we're working out the details now. I have thus given myself the perfect excuse to pursue a .40carbine Mech-Tech systems is also coming out with a CCU to fit .45 Springfield XD's as well before the year's out, so I'll have three pistol/carbine caliber combos if I play my cards right.

    -plink!-
     
  12. Philo_Beddoe

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    CZ does not make a single stack pistol, they are all double stack.

    CZ 75B's come in 9mm and 40.

    Standard capacity for the 9mm is 15-16 depending upon the year, its 12 for the 40

    The 10 round magazines are for states that only allow 10 round magazines.

    "Hi capacity" magazine is a magazine that holds more then the gun was designed for, like 30 round Glock magazines in a Glock 17 which standard magazine holds 17.

    Reduced capacity magazines hold less then the standard and generally came from the assault weapons ban.

    Dont buy into the gun banners rhetoric that magazines that the gun were designed for are magical "high capacity" magazines. If the gun was designed to hold 17 rounds, then a 17 round magazine is the standard capacity magazine.
     
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    Right, nomenclature is useful only insofar as it helps the other person understand what is being said. Looks like I succeeded; I said 'hi-cap' because there seems to be 10-round magazines and then everything else (usually referred-to, in banner ads or otherwise) as 'high capacity', right or wrong.

    I do know enough about firearms to know that a magazine does not magically increase a gun's designed capacity. Such is the wonder of big magazines! They may stick out a bit, but I like the reason.

    My question stemmed from having seen magazines of three different capacities all listed for CZ75's and didn't know if all three would fit the 75B. If the 17-rounder sticks out a bit, but works, I won't come crying to you (or anyone else). Deal?
     
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    .40

    THAT would be interesting.

    Ammo availability !
     
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    Of course it takes standard hi-cap mags. The 10 round abortions were those issued with the guns sold during the Clinton era hi-cap magazine ban. $400.00 is a sweet deal for that gun, and full capacity mags are once again available since 2004. You can find them at various sources, or you can get them directly from CZ-USA. I think CDNN had some factory mags available and may still have them. At any rate, try to avoid any aftermarket brands. Original CZ mags work best.

    The mag bodies were butchered and modified in several ways; Yours appear to be the "shortened body" variation with long plastic extensions to filll the frame. They are still double stack mags, only modified to comply with the hi-cap ban.

    The "CZ 75 Compact" you refer to was a shortened, lightened version of the standard size CZ 75 pistol and takes a completely different mag altogether which, unfortunately, is rather hard to find.

    Sadly, there are still some states who still adhere to the ten round rule and the poster was correct in that statement.
     
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    I'm going to type this as loud as I can... BUY THAT GUN!
     
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    I think either CZ or Mec-Gar will start selling 13 round .40 magazines soon, if they haven't already.
     
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    The compacts take a shorter magazine, otherwise it is the same. When I carry my PCR I usually have a 16 rounder on my belt to go with it. I have had no trouble finding either type of magazine. I usually buy from CDNN, or another place I forgot the name of.
     
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    I have no idea why everyone thinks it's such a sweet deal. A new one goes for about $525-$550 or so. I'd say that's a fair price. The mags are expensive though (they go for $40 a pop usually for the 12 rounders). If you wanted the 12 round mags instead of the 10s and you buy 2 new mags for it plus shipping then you're less than $50 under the price of a new one. It's still a fair deal but I wouldn't call it a steal or anything.

    I really like CZ's guns. The price has really gone way up on them lately. I still think they're worth it though.
     
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    Buy Mec-Gar, they are the factory mags and cost about half as much.
     
  22. Col. Plink

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    Thanks for all the input, folks. I slogged my through heavy thunderstorms to meet the guy (nicest non-THR guy I've done business with so far).

    I'll admit I was surprised to see the factory mags as MecGar, I thought gun companies designed and made their own magazines as a rule. I have seen 17-rounders at tacticalgunarmory.com listed as CZ-USA for about $47, which seems steep. As an aside I haven't seen CZ 75 .40's in the $525 range. 9's maybe, but the .40's seem more like 6 bills or more.
     
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