Dao pistol what am I missing?

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What am I missing?

I'm looking for true dao pistols with an external hammer. I know some sits can be converted and some small guns like the naa guardian 380 are like this but what about compact sized single stacks like a kahr k9? I can't seem to find any current production guns like this. Is it really so rare even with striker fired guns all over the place?

 

[NavyLCDR]

http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/uspc_general.asp

Looks like several HK models can be Law Enforcement Modified - double action only.

 

[DukeNukem]

A few currently in production are the Ruger LC9, LCP, Kel-Tec P3AT, PF9, P11, SIG P250, P2022(which is DA/SA but can be switched to DAO, I think). Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head, but there are bound to be more.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Are you looking for a hammer-fired DAO, and must it have an external, spurred hammer? There are few such guns like this. The presence of a hammer spur on a DAO is moot, as it cannot be cocked for single-action fire. If you're OK with a bobbed/flush hammer, look for a Smith & Wesson Third Generation (old-style metal frame pistols, pre M&P) in DAO. There are also SIG pistols available in a DAO variant that they call DAK.

 

[JO JO]

+1 sig makes a real nice DAK triger system

 

[JDGray]

The DAK is the only one I can think of. Alot of the KTs are not true DA guns as the slide actually pre sets the hammer. DA will give true second strike capacity, by pulling the trigger. My old KT P11 was DAO, but has a bobbed hammer.

Ruger built a p-series DAO, not sure of the model.

 

[flatlander937]

The HKs with the LEM trigger and quite impressive and unlike other DAO triggers. They have exposed hammers as well if that is really that important.

The LEM trigger has a super long take-up for the first shot, but the trigger reset is relatively short for follow-up shots... it is not like a DA/SA pistol though, the long take up is very smooth and relatively light, then ramps up before it breaks which is very predictable... I really want to own one after playing with one at the local gun store.

 

[AK103K]

I had a SIG P245 that was a true DAO, and not the DAK trigger. Not sure if it was done by SIG or if they were SIG parts, but the original parts were in the box with the gun when I got it (I got it used). I ended up reinstalling them when I sold it, as I had trouble selling it with the DAO trigger in it.

It was a great trigger, and almost as nice as my P250's trigger for being smooth and buttery.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I should mention that the S&W DAOs are a preset hammer system, so you won't get a "second strike" in case of a failure to fire. To me this is a moot point as you should be shucking the dud and feeding a fresh round, which will reset the hammer, but it is worthy of note if you have your heart set on a true DAO.

Occasionally, you can find a DAO (not the later DAK) SIG P220 or P226. SIG will also convert a DA/SA to DAO. Either of these will give you true DAO with an exposed spurred hammer, but a fairly long and heavy pull on every shot.

 

[sawdeanz]

Berretta px4 has a dao variant

 

[GLOOB]

What am I missing?

I'm looking for true dao pistols with an external hammer.

IMHO, the DAO semiauto with external hammer is a bad design from an engineering standpoint. But if you really want a DAO pistol, all you have to do is disable the disconnector on your DA/SA external hammer firearm and/or grind off the SA sear notch.

Are you worried that the gun might go full auto? Naw, that's unlikely. The hammer will follow the slide and won't hit the firing pin with enough energy to fire the next round - at least with most guns. Does sound crazy? Just grind off the disconnector nub and file on the sear? Well, that's how DAO pistols work. Still sound a little weird? Well, that's why IMHO the DAO semiauto with external hammer is a bad design from an engineering standpoint.

 

[Gun Geezer]

S&W Bodyguard 380.
CZ PCR 9mm.

 

[tekarra]

At one time cZ did make a DAO version of the 75B; however the PCR is SA/DA with a decocker.