Zen21Tao
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As Nomad's link shows, the term "mall ninja" originated as a term to describe the THR poster Gecko45. It all started when Gecko45 posted a thread asking for advice on ways, other than duck taping a 2nd ceramic trauma plate on the back of his vest (which he was currently doing), that he could withstand being shot in the back by 338 Lapua rounds. He explained that he worked security at a local mall and wanted to make sure the vest he wore under his uniform protected him from snipers.
He went on to say that he ran a 3 man tactical special response team at a very large mall and wanted to replace the S&W .38s and Mossberg pump shotguns they had with the following: 3 MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights, 2 G36 rifles using SS109 rounds, 3 Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig, 1 PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308, 1 Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building, 3 Glock 27 backup guns, and 3 Kahr P-9 holdouts. This is where it really began to get fun.
All of Gecko45's postings are worth a read, but here are some of my favorites:
(from http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/)
As for the "Ninja" part, he did claim to be a Master of Ninjitsu:
There is also more about him here.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=229047&highlight=sebenza
He went on to say that he ran a 3 man tactical special response team at a very large mall and wanted to replace the S&W .38s and Mossberg pump shotguns they had with the following: 3 MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights, 2 G36 rifles using SS109 rounds, 3 Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig, 1 PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308, 1 Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building, 3 Glock 27 backup guns, and 3 Kahr P-9 holdouts. This is where it really began to get fun.
All of Gecko45's postings are worth a read, but here are some of my favorites:
(from http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/)
The SWAT prettyboys were overpowered by the Gap, and we Backup RTF’ers had to resume our roles, and basically put everything five by five. The takedown was actually applied with SW weapons, SW3’s. It happened a while agao, and there is no way you would know what city I am in, so I can reveal these details, lets just say that the Mayor had really deep pockets to keep all of this out of the news. People aren’t so holy and upstanding when you get out your checkbook, they start to “forget” stuff, at least that what I understood happened.
We only patrol the roof, maitenance areas, and parking lots with rifles, MP5’s for if TSHTF indoors, and Glock 30’s on our belts. The MP5 is carried discreetly, under the seats of the electric transportation cart, and we only wear BDU’s. It’s not extreme to be prepared and the merchants don’t mind, it keeps the Neonazi gangs and the Crips out of the mall. We did have a “situation”, but such things are easily disguised as, say an evacuation due to a gas leak at one of the restaurants, and the operation of both sides was so well contained, that they almost got wawy with it, and we just managed to bring it to a halt.This is not a fantasy, it is myjob, and if it is too harsh of a reality for you armchair commandos, then get another beer, and change websites, because this is the real wolrd of CQB. I can hack it, can you, I do not think so, and your attempt to make fun of me is lame and childish.
I tell you that we are undervalued for our beneficial effect on society at large, for the urban and suburban shopping centers see %80 of the armed violence in this nation, and why don’t the cops take care of it, because they are a bunch of wusses, and they are not man enough to put up with the danger and stress. You all who are makeing fun of me have never been threatened by jailed drug dealers, serial killers, and shoplifters, or fired at by high powered rifles so excuse me if I decide to have good weapons to protect and defend myself without all of you makeing fun of my choice, and they way I do my job!
As for the "Ninja" part, he did claim to be a Master of Ninjitsu:
I am not a ninja, merely a student of the art of Ninjitsu, and I prefer not to have status such as “Ninja” laid upon me, for as yet I am unworthy of the title. I will be completing my ninjisu training in a little over 8 months, and then I will be a Master of Ninjitsu, a true “Ninja”. But it is not my martial arts skills that make me so vital to the security of the mall, it is my tactical and strategic skills honed by years of intens on-site on the job training. My weapons skills are the envy of the squad, and I think that with my expertise I ought to be able to choose an effective and reliab;e weapon for CQC and urban combat, whicch is why I chose SW, the MP5’s are junk comparatively.
There is also more about him here.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=229047&highlight=sebenza