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[RB98SS]

Folks,

I've decided to purchase a Dillon .357 sig sizer die and was wondering if you Dillon users have a favorite online place to purchase at. I'm finding few sites that sell Dillon die sets, let alone individual dies.

Appreciate your feedback, thanks.

Gary

 

[atblis]

Brian Enos.

Don't think I've ever seen the Dillon dies sold separately.

Why Dillon?

 

[RB98SS]

Why Dillon?

Only carbide available.

 

[X-Rap]

You will still need to lube so I hope that isn't the only reason for wanting carbide.

 

[RB98SS]

It seems plenty of reloaders are using the Dillon carbide without lubing the cases. That is my plan. I still may resize the cases with a carbide 40/10mm die but I'll see how it goes.

Either way, I do not plan on lubing.

 

[ATAShooter]

I bought the 357 sig carbide die from dillon. Very hard to use without lube, also the die did not resize all the way down and I had hang ups. Not worth the $$$$.

 

[X-Rap]

Good luck i was not aware of that being successful.

 

[RB98SS]

You guys know how to hurt a fella.

 

[X-Rap]

Don't get me wrong I like Dillon stuff and have a lot.

 

[Redemption]

Dillon carbide dies are great, they are all I use. .357 sig is a bottleneck case however, and bottleneck cases should be lubed. Run the die all the way down to the shellplate and then back it off so it just doesn't touch. Put in a case, run it up and tighten the lock ring. It will resize the case as well as any other die.

 

[Big Wes]

I agree with the above poster. Been loading 357 sig for many years without issue. I use Dillon carbide dies exclusively. I always lube all case no matter what caliber. It seems to make the 550B & the SDB run smoother to me.

 

[cmgred]

I agree with the above poster. Been loading 357 sig for many years without issue. I use Dillon carbide dies exclusively. I always lube all case no matter what caliber. It seems to make the 550B & the SDB run smoother to me.

I agree, I just use a quick spray on lube, no mess. But definitely need it for bottleneck cases, and it makes straight walled easier.

I think Brian Enos and Dillon both sell individual dies.

I've not had any isues with "glocked" brass with either the .357 Sig or .40 with Dillon dies.

 

[billybob44]

Folks,

I've decided to purchase a Dillon .357 sig sizer die and was wondering if you Dillon users have a favorite online place to purchase at. I'm finding few sites that sell Dillon die sets, let alone individual dies.

Appreciate your feedback, thanks.

Gary

Dillon part #G72-16513==$96.95 (Ouch) www.bluepress.com

 

[atblis]

Glock 357 Sig barrels don't seem to have the case support issues that other Glock barrels do.

 

[ReloaderFred]

I have the Dillon carbide 357 Sig die set, but if I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have spent the extra money for it. You'll do just as well with Redding or RCBS dies for a lot less money. If you don't use a powder through expander, you'll have to purchase an expander die to use with the Dillon set, since it doesn't come with an expander. I use the Redding, which I consider one of the best.

I load a lot of 357 Sig ammunition, upwards of 12,000 rounds so far. Spend the extra money on bullets, powder and primers.

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[Maj Dad]

I think the carbide dies are useful for commercial reloaders but not the average shooter (even those who shoot a lot) in that they last longer, but they are sizing thousands and thousands of cases. The amound of wear that brass inflicts on steel is very slight, and if you're not doing it thousands of times a day, save the money. I use Dillon products more and more because they are top quality and they stand behind them, no questions asked. Most of the other companies do as well, and I have RCBS, Pacific, Lyman, Lee and a lot of others that work swell. But I have an RL 550 that runs like a BMW and Dillon has helped me out significantly over the 10-12 years I've had it, both with patient step-by-step advice early on and occasional replacement of parts that I thought were defective, but which truly were not (and I think it was apparent to the rep but he never flinched at replacing them). I don't think you can go wrong with any of the major companies; I tend to like Dillon for reasons stated, but don't use their bottleneck carbide dies (straight wall pistol dies is another thread!). Mis dos centavos...

(P.S. I usually order for DillonPrecision.com, or call the 800 number)

 

[helg]

I successfully reloaded bottlenecked 7.62x25 without lubing with 5-die setup in my Loadmaster. The first station had 38 super carbide Lee die that touched only the wide part of the shell. The second had 7.62x25 Lee steel die, which did the rest of the sizing, and worked fine without the lube, as the sizing area was small.

As 357SIG is bottlenecked 40SW, I would suggest to try 40SW carbide die in the first station, and 357SIG steel die in the second one.

 

[RB98SS]

Unfortunately I'm using a Lee Classic Turret that only has 4 stations and cannot add a 40 carbide to it. The thought is I would replace my Lee sizer with the Dillon sizer. I don't lube any of my pistol cases as is, and wanted to keep things the same with 357 sig. I've already been sizing with the 40 carbide and then sizing without lube with the Lee 357 sizer and I'm afraid I'm stressing the necks too much.

Maybe not.

 

[ReloaderFred]

Even with the Carbide sizing die, I lube 357 Sig brass, as it makes it so much easier to size and it's easier on the brass. I just tumble the sized cases in untreated corn cob for about 20 minutes and that removes all traces of the case lube.

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[helg]

Unfortunately I'm using a Lee Classic Turret that only has 4 stations and cannot add a 40 carbide to it.

Sure you can do this in 4-die setup if you combine seat and crimp in one die.

I've already been sizing with the 40 carbide and then sizing without lube with the Lee 357 sizer and I'm afraid I'm stressing the necks too much.

This should not stress the necks any more than a single die sizing.

 

[gbw]

Just one experience re: case lube.

I use carbide size dies (Lyman, RCBS, Dillon) for .38, .357 (Same die), 9mm, .45acp. Many tens of thousands of rounds, no problems whatever and I never use case lube. This is on a very old Dillon RL450 machine. I do tumble clean the cases. Case life for all of these is nearly indefinite except for hot loadings. (But I've no experience with non-straight walled cartridges, ie 357 sig or 30-06, they may need lube).

 

[ReloaderFred]

The 357 Sig is one caliber that you don't want to seat and crimp in one step. The case neck is so short, you need all the neck tension you can get, plus a good crimp. You can't get a good crimp if it's applied while the bullet is still being seating into the case. The bullet needs to be seated first, and then the crimp applied in a separate step for best results.

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[RB98SS]

Thanks guys,

I'll probably stick to my Lee dies and pre-size with the carbide 40.