Do any .30 Cal. rifles share ammo such as a .458Win Mag/.458 Lott can?

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I know you can do it with .44mag/.44 spl, you can do it with .458 Win. Mag./.458 Lott.

I want some versatility out of the next rifle I'm going to buy. I like the 30-06 but would love to find something that is multi-cartridge in the .30 Caliber range.

Is there such a thing?

Thanks
 
nope just a wide range of loading options to cover everything from huntin cottontails to grizzly bear and most .30 cal versions ya can get ammo at any Wally world etc... if ya need to,
 
Thing is, the .30 caliber rifle cartridges are, with the exception of .30 M1 Carbine, bottlenecked. Basically it means that a shorter overall length cartridge wouldn't seat in the chamber properly, or the rim would be in too far for the firing pin to hit the primer.
 
I believe that you can shoot 300 H&H in a 300 Weatherby.

That is correct, and you can also shoot both of the above named cartridges in the 30 Jarrett.

.300 Jarrett

150 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3550 to 3600 fps
165 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3400 to 3450 fps
180 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3200 to 3250 fps
200 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3000 to 3050 fps

Since the conception of the .300 H&H Magnum hunters and target shooters alike have realized the potential of thirty caliber bullets at high velocities. The .300 Winchester Magnum and the .300 Weatherby just further validated in people’s minds how good they really were for long range shooting. Having produced a lot of Jarrett Rifles in the .300 Win Mag caliber we realized that we could consistently derive extremely good accuracy and performance from this cartridge. With the .300 Weatherby’s we could get the velocity, but the accuracy was erratic due to the free-bore design. The free-boring or clearance in front of the bullet before the rifling was a necessary design, when Mr. Weatherby created that cartridge, due to the powder selections that he had to work with at the time. At this point, our direction was to achieve the Weatherby ballistics, or better them if possible, combined with the inherent accuracy of the .300 Winchester Magnum

We chose the 8mm Remington Magnum case, because in a blown out improved configuration it would give us the case capacity we needed. The brass is very tough and inexpensive compared to Weatherby brass. A 35 degree shoulder angle was chosen for the new cartridge. We arrived at a lead angle in the throat area of the chamber (That is Classified Information). I’m sure similar cartridges have been developed and used, but our advantage was all of the new slow burning powders available today, and a larger variety of bullets and primers.

After all of the homework and reamers were finished, we made two test rifles. Our results with these two test rifles proved to be a good representative example of the .300 Jarrett’s potential. With the 165 grain Nosler Ballistic tip bullet, the velocities ran from 3350 fps to 3450 fps, with minute, three shot accuracy at 100 yards from an 8 pound rifle. The 180 grain Partitions went from 3150 to 3250 fps. With identical powder charges used in the .300 Weatherby, we got increased velocities in the .300 Jarrett of 100 to 150 fps, proving it to be a more efficient case. It will consistently deliver a 200 grain Nosler Partition at 3000 fps average. At this point, I knew I had a winner with the cartridge that would be the ultimate long range deer rifle with 165 grain bullets. To add icing to the cake, at 250 yards, the .300 Jarrett with a 200 grain bullet (muzzle velocity 3000 fps) has more energy than a .338 Win. Mag. with a 250 grain bullet (muzzle velocity 2700 fps). This flatter trajectory and higher energy levels beyond 250 yards would make the .300 Jarrett a better long range elk rifle. For the one rifle advocate, this combo will come closer than anything I know of at the present time, especially with the unbelievable consistency in accuracy using different bullet weights.

To make the .300 Jarrett we run the 8mm Rem Mag brass through a Redding .300 Jarrett full length die. We then load 79 grains of H1000 powder with any 180 gr. 30 caliber bullet and fire it in the rifle. That’s all there is to it. You can also use .375 brass which is the same length as 8mm Mag brass. As an emergency alternative .300 Weatherby ammo can be safely fired in the .300 Jarrett, but the fired case cannot be reloaded because the neck area is too short after firing. The .300 Jarrett is here to stay, because it gets the job done with authority on targets, deer, elk and most of the African animals. It has become my own personal favorite and our number one seller!

http://www.jarrettrifles.com/300Jarrett.html
 
I believe that you can shoot 300 H&H in a 300 Weatherby.

That is correct, and you can also shoot both of the above named cartridges in the 30 Jarrett.

.300 Jarrett

150 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3550 to 3600 fps
165 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3400 to 3450 fps
180 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3200 to 3250 fps
200 gr. Nosler Bullet..................3000 to 3050 fps

Since the conception of the .300 H&H Magnum hunters and target shooters alike have realized the potential of thirty caliber bullets at high velocities. The .300 Winchester Magnum and the .300 Weatherby just further validated in people’s minds how good they really were for long range shooting. Having produced a lot of Jarrett Rifles in the .300 Win Mag caliber we realized that we could consistently derive extremely good accuracy and performance from this cartridge. With the .300 Weatherby’s we could get the velocity, but the accuracy was erratic due to the free-bore design. The free-boring or clearance in front of the bullet before the rifling was a necessary design, when Mr. Weatherby created that cartridge, due to the powder selections that he had to work with at the time. At this point, our direction was to achieve the Weatherby ballistics, or better them if possible, combined with the inherent accuracy of the .300 Winchester Magnum

We chose the 8mm Remington Magnum case, because in a blown out improved configuration it would give us the case capacity we needed. The brass is very tough and inexpensive compared to Weatherby brass. A 35 degree shoulder angle was chosen for the new cartridge. We arrived at a lead angle in the throat area of the chamber (That is Classified Information). I’m sure similar cartridges have been developed and used, but our advantage was all of the new slow burning powders available today, and a larger variety of bullets and primers.

After all of the homework and reamers were finished, we made two test rifles. Our results with these two test rifles proved to be a good representative example of the .300 Jarrett’s potential. With the 165 grain Nosler Ballistic tip bullet, the velocities ran from 3350 fps to 3450 fps, with minute, three shot accuracy at 100 yards from an 8 pound rifle. The 180 grain Partitions went from 3150 to 3250 fps. With identical powder charges used in the .300 Weatherby, we got increased velocities in the .300 Jarrett of 100 to 150 fps, proving it to be a more efficient case. It will consistently deliver a 200 grain Nosler Partition at 3000 fps average. At this point, I knew I had a winner with the cartridge that would be the ultimate long range deer rifle with 165 grain bullets. To add icing to the cake, at 250 yards, the .300 Jarrett with a 200 grain bullet (muzzle velocity 3000 fps) has more energy than a .338 Win. Mag. with a 250 grain bullet (muzzle velocity 2700 fps). This flatter trajectory and higher energy levels beyond 250 yards would make the .300 Jarrett a better long range elk rifle. For the one rifle advocate, this combo will come closer than anything I know of at the present time, especially with the unbelievable consistency in accuracy using different bullet weights.

To make the .300 Jarrett we run the 8mm Rem Mag brass through a Redding .300 Jarrett full length die. We then load 79 grains of H1000 powder with any 180 gr. 30 caliber bullet and fire it in the rifle. That’s all there is to it. You can also use .375 brass which is the same length as 8mm Mag brass. As an emergency alternative .300 Weatherby ammo can be safely fired in the .300 Jarrett, but the fired case cannot be reloaded because the neck area is too short after firing. The .300 Jarrett is here to stay, because it gets the job done with authority on targets, deer, elk and most of the African animals. It has become my own personal favorite and our number one seller!

http://www.jarrettrifles.com/300Jarrett.html
 
There is a company in Alaska that makes chamber adapters for shooting 7.62x39 or .308 out of a .30-06 chamber. Pretty sure they also make .32 ACP insert and a couple others too.
 
You can handload .30-06 or .308 down to .30-.30 levels easily. One of the ammo companies also makes "managed recoil" ammo which is downloaded enough to make them softer shooting.
 
They aren't really rifle cartridges perse, but you can shoot .30 Mauser in a 7.62x25mm gun. They did make 7.62x25mm machine guns, so I guess it's kind of a rifle round.
 
Coorect, that's the whole point of AI. Besides inproved performance, you can shoot standard ammo in a pinch, which just get's fireformed.
 
I guess the two 300's are not common enough for me to consider buying that rifle. I like to have preparation for shtf scenarios. I also like having more options in the case of disaster too. I.E. versatility

Oh well. I'm still getting the good 'ole 30-06 then.


Should I make it a Remington 700?
Any advice on buying a 30-06 would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
Remington 700s are really nice rifles. I'd also check out the Savage bolt actions. They tend to be a bit cheaper and usually just as accurate if not more. Also if you're really concerned with being able to shoot different rounds, Savages are really easy to convert between calibers. Just get a spare barrel, unscrew the barrel nut and take the other off and put the new one on in its place. Make sure to check headspace. If the cartridge uses a different case head size, it's also pretty easy to change out the bolt head.
 
Any advice on buying a 30-06 would be appreciated.
Keep your eyes open for an older quality sporter. I picked up an '03 for less than 3 C notes. Douglas barrel and Fajen stock included.
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7.62x51 and .308 win. are interchangable. I've been shooting the .308 out of a nato 7.62x51 rifle for over 20 years. Shoots good and accurate.
 
Some one already mentiond Shell shrinkers, but I might add I have used a .32ACP adapter in my Savage 110 in .308. It was quieter than the .308 ammo and not as accurate as .308 or my worst .22LR, but good enough for body shots on bunnies and such. I have used it with FMJ and SilverTip type .32 ACP.

I know for certain that such adapters are available in .30 Carbine and I have considered purchasing one of those.

I believe you can get one in .32H&R Magnum which will take that shell and .32 S&W Long and Short. It maybe that that might even handle the .32 ACP as some revolvers chambered for .32 NP (the colt version of the .32 S&W Long) can be fired with .32ACP ammo.

I have not yet seen the 7.62x39 adaptors. and am curious about how they perform.

Perhaps some one could custom make 7.62x25 adaptors as well.

A while back someone was making a chamber piece for .30-06 rifles tha mimiced the old .308 adaptor in the M-1 Garand the Navy used for a bit. Supposedly it stayed put in bolt actions, but could be easily removed with a broken shell extractor.

Not seen on e of those either.

I also used a .22LR adaptor in some .223/5.56mm rifles, but I do not like the need for a plug with a rimfire firing pin in it. Nothing like jacking back the handle on the Mini-14 and having the adaptor fall in one place and the firing pin block fall somewhere else that takes you 20 minutes to locate.

At one point there was someone making .30-06 and .308 based .22LR adaptors like the above or like the old US Army training adaptors from just after WWII. These actually had a section of rifled barrel exptenting from the mouth of the "cartridge" that gave one an inch or so of .22 barrel inside the bore of the .30 rifle. have not seen one for a bit and never used one.

I suppose it would be possible to have a .30-06 that with adaptors of one sort or another could fire .30-06, .308, .30 Carbine, .32 H&R Magnum, .32 SW Long and short and New Police, .32 ACP, and .22rimfire Short long and LR and maybe .22 Magnum.

The survialists on line (both upper and lower case) used to occassionally bring these things up.

-Bob Hollingsworth
 
I have heard that you can shoot 308 or 762.51 , through a russian 762.54 , in a pinch.

Bad idea! I wouldn't try it, unless it was life or death. If it would chamber at all, it would almost certainly rupture the case, blowing lots of hot gas back in your face. Not good.

Years ago I had one of those adapters for shooting .308 in an '06. It didn't work very good at all. I think if you epoxied it in place, then cut the chamber with a .308 Win reamer it would work OK, or if your 30-06 chamber was real loose. It definitely did not work like it was supposed to, and I gave up on the idea.
 
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