Do I really need more than whats in the kit?

[Moparmike]

I am considering the purchase of a Mauser, and have looked on a few sites that mention cleaning, like http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishnagant/cleaning/hs.asp and it mentions a plethora of stuff, most of which I was quite surprised at the cost of. I have cleaned a .22lr Marlin a couple of times, and used an Outers kit that is commonly found at Walmart. How much of this stuff do I really need? In the list he mentions the following are needed:

*solvent (and lots of it) ****This comes with the kit****
* solid 1 piece cleaning rod ****This comes with the kit and gun****
*copper remover ****NOT in kit, where do I find it? Havent seen it at Walmart. How much does it cost?****
*bronze brushes ****This comes with the kit and gun****
* stacks of good patches ****This comes with the kit****
*nylon cleaning brush ****Old toothbrush?****
*a stand to hold your rifle while cleaning it, ****Havent really found this to be necessary****
*slotted tips, **** ****
* bore guide **** ****
*bore paste (to clean the dirty ones) **** ****
*Break Free Powder Blast ********
* Break Free CLP. ********

What is all that stuff? The total list of stuff comes to a total cost of $177, which is more than the gun and more than I have to spend. The kit is only $7.

Thanks for all the info.

 

[jjmorgan64]

Per the items in question.

-*copper remover ****NOT in kit, where do I find it? Havent seen it at Walmart. How much does it cost?****

This is another type of solvent, you don't need to use it unless accuracy is becoming poor typically, you can get away without it initially.

-*a stand to hold your rifle while cleaning it, ****Havent really found this to be necessary****

If you don't need it that's fine it's a luxury item.

-* solid 1 piece cleaning rod ****This comes with the kit and gun****

the one on the gun won't accept standard cleaning tips usually, it will work as a jag to hold the patches.

-*slotted tips, **** ****

to hold the patches, if you use the rod on the gun then you can get away without this, but you'll get one eventually.

-* bore guide **** ****

protects the muzzle if cleaning from that end, pull the bolt and clean from the chamber and you'll be fine.

-*bore paste (to clean the dirty ones) **** ****

If you need it you'll know once you start cleaning.

-*Break Free Powder Blast ********

Great for cleaning out actions you don't want to tear apart, you'll be fine without it.

-* Break Free CLP. ********

A great lube/oil with a light cleaning agent. well worth the investment but you can use standard oils as well for a whole lot cheaper.

The best idea would probrably be to get the kit, and figure out from there if you need anything else, I doubt you'll need much.

 

[cslinger]

A basic cleaning kit will do you just fine.

The key thing to remember when dealing with Mil-Surps is that if you shoot corrosive ammo, and just assume most of it is, you must immediately clean the salts from the primers as soon as you get back from shooting. This is done very easily, quickly and cheaply so don't worry.

Take a bucket and fill it up with hot hot hot water and regular old dishwashing detergent(Dawn etc.).

Disassemble the gun throw the bolt in the bucket and put the gun barrel first into the water/bucket. Use a patch with your cleaning rod and create a bit of a piston where you draw the hot soapy water into the barrel and up to the breach. Do this a few times. Wipe down the rest of the metal with hot soapy rag.

Take out bolt and wipe down. Make sure you dry everything thoroughly and then just clean and oil as normal.

This sounds harder then it is but it is necessary when shooting corrosive mil surp ammo. That stuff will rust your gun within a day or less if not taken care of properly.

Chris

 

[Moparmike]

Thanks for all the advice.

I had heard lots of stuff about the old milsurp ammo, and have a plan. I plan to get a $.50 plastic bottle from HBA in Wallyworld and some cheap ammonia windex and fill it, and put it in the bag. When I am done (barrel is cool) I will open the bolt and pour it down the barrel from the bolt. Let dry and then run home and clean it.

At least that is what I hear will work. I have heard much about the ammonia & water mix and the dishwater stuff.

The rod on the gun accepts the brush that comes with the gun. It also allows me to use the bayo.

Keep any helpful advice coming!

 

[Houndawg]

I may be wrong, but from what I understand, the rod on the gun wasn't meant to be used by itself. A few guys would get together and screw their rods together to make one long enough to punch the bore. When one guy got done, the next guy would punch his bore, and so on.