Duty falls on parent who buys teen a gun

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Duty falls on parent who buys teen a gun
By Kathleen Brady Shea

Inquirer Staff Writer

When a Plymouth Meeting mother was charged last week with supplying her son with guns, the case sparked national outrage.

Many people asked how Michele Cossey, 46, could possibly have purchased firearms for her 14-year-old son; others wondered whether they knew other lawbreakers.

In a state where hunting is so sacred that some school districts schedule time off during deer season, thousands of Pennsylvania parents buy guns each year for their children.

During the 2006-07 season, the state issued 98,163 junior hunting licenses to children aged 12 to 17, according to Jerry Feaser, a spokesman for the state Game Commission.

Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce L. Castor Jr. said most parents whose children hunt or shoot for target practice have nothing to fear.

"It's not against the law for a parent to purchase a gun for a child to use under their supervision," he said. "It's not OK for a parent to buy a gun and say, 'Here, have at it; do whatever you want.' "

Michele Cossey was arrested after her 14-year-old son, Dillon Cossey, told police about his plans for "a Columbine-type shooting" at Plymouth Whitemarsh High School and the guns his mother had bought for him.

Dillon Cossey was charged with solicitation to commit terror and other offenses; he is in the custody of juvenile authorities.

Like the four other district attorneys in the region, Castor could not recall another case in which a parent was charged with allowing illegal possession of a firearm by a minor and unlawful transfer of a firearm.

Michele Cossey's attorney, Timothy Woodward, said he would have no comment on the case until his client's preliminary hearing on Nov. 1.

Castor said Michele Cossey made an illegal "straw" purchase by "buying a weapon for someone who is not allowed to possess it."

Police seized a 9mm semiautomatic Hi-Point semiautomatic carbine with a laser scope from Dillon Cossey's bedroom in the family's Plymouth Valley home. Two other guns purchased by Michele Cossey for her son - a .22 handgun and a single-shot .22 rifle - were being stored at a friend's home, police said.

The fact that she may not have known of her son's dark side - marked by his Web sites glorifying violence - is irrelevant to the charges, Castor said.

The charge of unlawful possession by a minor also includes the other two gun purchases, said Montgomery County First Assistant District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman. Though those guns were stored elsewhere, they constituted "constructive possession" by the youth, Ferman said.

Under the law, when a person does not have actual possession but has the power to control an item, he has constructive possession.

State Police Lt. Gary L. Schuler, director of the firearms division, said firearms used by young hunters or target-shooters must be registered in an adult's name and remain under an adult's supervision at all times.

Even then, the adult must be within "sight and hearing range" of a child with a gun, Schuler said.

Under federal law, a person must be 21 to purchase a handgun or handgun ammunition. State law permits an 18-year-old to buy a rifle or shotgun or ammunition and a 17-year-old to possess a rifle without adult supervision, but only for hunting.

Diane Edbril, executive director of CeaseFire PA, said she hoped the "unusually extreme" Plymouth Whitemarsh case would heighten awareness about the perils of gun access.

"Teenagers by nature are impulsive, frequently angst-ridden, and lacking in judgment," she said. "Some tragedy is going to ensue."

Michael Friedland, owner of French Creek Outfitters, said the high number of youth hunting permits is a result of Pennsylvania's "deep tradition" of intergenerational hunting.

For many customers of his hunting and fishing store in Phoenixville, shopping is a family affair, Friedland said. Some manufacturers even market "youth-size" guns, he said.

Friedland said the majority of his customers purchase safety equipment and keep their guns locked. They are knowledgeable about the law, and keep close tabs on their children during gun use.

"Any sane person would do that, even if it weren't the law," he said.

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The minor child who does not own the firearms is presumed to have constructive possession of them, but the actual adult owner of the firearms does not?
 
I have no problem with a parent being legally responsible for what a child does with a parentally-supplied firearm.

I have a whole lot of problem with a parent being legally responsible for what a child is accused of thinking about doing with a parentally-supplied firearm.

(yeah, and the sexual license issues are disgusting and reprehensible, but those are wrong. Parental responsibility should be honored more though, not less)
 
Well it's just the incrementalism, isn't it...?
If you have them, you are bound to commit a crime, right? If you talk about them, you are conspiring to commit a crime, right?
I don't know where it's gonna' wind up, but there are so many people afraid of everything undzer the sun, that we keep getting further down the road and taken care of...may be the destination...
 
Ok so let me get this straight if I had been accused of thinking about shooting someone at my school my parents could have been held responsible because I had access their firearms?

"Teenagers by nature are impulsive, frequently angst-ridden, and lacking in judgment,"

So basically what she is saying is that all teenagers are too stupid and/or emotional to be trusted, when you think about doesn't that sound an awful lot like the anti crowd?
 
"Constructive Possession"

Ok, so Im sitting on the couch watching TV. I'm home alone. I get up and go to the bathroom, and leave a pistol sitting on the endtable.

If a felon lives across the street from me, is he now in "constructive possession"? Because he COULD jump through the window and grab it. It doesn't matter if he did or not, he COULD.

Isn't that the same thing they're charging here?

c2k
 
who heard about the kid getting suspended for drawing a stick figure with a gun in school? Is the parent that bought the pencil going to be charged?
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but constructive posession is possession of the components to construct a restricted or prohibited weapon, is it not?

They're charging the kid with possession of weapons he didn't buy that were kept at a place he didn't live. Maybe I'm missing something, but I fail to see where a crime was comitted here.


In some states, your minor daughter can have an abortion with assistance from the school system and you don't have to be notified. The state accepts responsibility for that.

Let's dissect what this truly means. State sponsored and school approved murder is ok, but it is wrong for a parent to supply their kid with a tool that could be used maliciously.
 
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I have no problem with a parent being legally responsible for what a child does with a parentally-supplied firearm.

I have a whole lot of problem with a parent being legally responsible for what a child is accused of thinking about doing with a parentally-supplied firearm.

Hmm. I don't know that you can seperate the two, although I see where you are coming from. The problem as I see it is that if you buy your kid a gun, and later on your kid gets accused of something bad, the general view is going to be that as a parent you supplied your child the tools necessary to carry out whatever plan they allegedly had. The parent is putting one foot in the fire, as it were.

The real problem here lies with false accusations, which even when proved false are often just as damaging as the real thing. I bet there are still people who feel like those Duke LaCrosse players probably did do something wrong, you know?
 
Since I will be a teen for only 2 more weeks I feel that I need to say this while I still can. I am a teen and know many adults that are less mature and have less common sense than I do. I see no reason for a teen to not be held fully responsible for his actions. What crime he committed exactly I'm not sure of, but if he did in fact commit one he should face it on his own. When I was about 5 I knew that gunshot wounds could kill people. I see no reason for anyone over the age of twelve to not be at least partly responsible for their actions.
 
i think i'm about to spark trouble, but i will anyway. i think that the mother is liable and both she and her son should face charges. a parent has the responciblility to teach their child about what is and is not ok. she is liable because she provided her son with a gun, without taking into consideration what he was going to do with the gun or making sure that he was not going to do anything illigal with the gun.
my father bought me my first gun when i was sixteen. it was a new englander single shot 4/10 gauge. a few months later he bought me a S&W m-19. i was allowed to keep both guns in my room and was respocible for the upkeep and safty of both guns. i was allowed to shoot both without supervision. the reason for his permission, was that i had PROVEN myself to be responcible and safe with firearms after many years of supervised practice. a parent is responcible for teaching safe and legal firearm practices, and when they fail to do so, they should be held accontable.
furthermore, as responcible gun owners, we should condem this women for giving gunowning parents with children engaged in shooting sports a bad name. "to retain our second amendment rights, and be responcible gun owners we must be vigilant and police our own." - kerry landes (my dad)
 
State Police Lt. Gary L. Schuler, director of the firearms division, said firearms used by young hunters or target-shooters must be registered in an adult's name and remain under an adult's supervision at all times.

I was under the impression PA did not have registration...
 
Gawd. On the news they had a table set up with all of his "weapons" laid out.

There were MAC-10s, several MP5s, five or six AKs, cuttdown AKs, fance smancy handguns. I was surprised. That stockpile had all sorts of NFA stuff and had to be worth tens if not hundreds of thoudsands of dollars.

It was only later revealed that there were airsoft toys among his "weapons" stockpile.

So I assume that whole table was nothing but airsoft toys. Eeeeeechhhh. And I guess a lot people who saw that assumed they were real.
 
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