Eye protection - ESS ICE vs ESS Suppressor

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Looking to pick up some new shooting glasses, and based on spec & reviews, am set on trying something by ESS. I want a single lense, so have narrowed the choice down the the ICE and Suppressor (which is a muff friendly version of the Crossbow).

Has anyone here owned either pair of these glasses and had any complaints?
 
I have an extremely positive review of the Crossbow family, but I am biased. FWIW...

I wanted the Crossbow frames/lenses for a while, but put it off due to budgeting and just shot using a cheapie pair of safety glasses. Not too long after buying the Crossbows, I was hit in the face with part of a bullet that bounced back, and the lens absorbed all of the energy. While the lens was obviously ruined, it did not break. Had I been wearing the cheaper pair, I think there is a chance I would have lost an eye.

Beyond the impact resistance, I like how the Crossbow lenses are designed to cover all of the eye area without any gaps above/near the eyebrows, or below/near the cheek bone. I feel this reduces the chance that a bullet fragment that hits right below or above the eye can skip through one of these gaps and go right at or into the eye. A Wiley pair I had (which I also really liked) used this same no-gap lens design.

If you wear muffs, my vote is to get the Suppressor. It's the most comfortable frames I have used with ear muffs and my a significant margin. The first thing I noticed the first time is that they NEVER shift while wearing ear muffs, even if the positioning of the ear muffs themselves shifts. I'm yet to use another frame I can say that about.

However, for times when you shoot without muffs on, you may want another frame because the Suppressor absolutely must be used either with muffs or with the included strap (tightened tightly), as the thin profile and lack of angles that make them so comfortable with muffs will slide without having one of those two things to hold them in position. Luckily, you can get the Suppressor and one of the other frames in the family and use the same lens for each frame.

For me, the Suppressor is used most with yellow lens' for indoor shooting, as I prefer to wear both muffs and ear plugs due to the increased sound shooting indoors, and a Crossbow Elite I use when shooting outdoors, almost always with the copper lens'. I personally find yellow enhances contrast indoors much better than clear, and copper provides dramatically better contrast when shooting outside, but still enough light reduction that I use them for all outdoor shooting except when I am fully exposed and the sun's position is directly in my line of sight (in which case I use the darker smoked lens'.)

But thanks to keeping the commonality of lens', I could pop my yellow lenses into the Crossbow Elite if I am shooting outside and then sun goes down to a point where I want more contrast, or pop the copper lens into the Crossbow Suppressor should someone be shooting a super loud gun next to me at the range, where I will want to add muffs in addition to the ear plugs.

If I could go back in time, I probably would have purchased the polarized darker lens. It might be because all of the sunglasses I wear are polarized, in direct sunlight I see a huge difference between the non-polarized Crossbow smoke lens versus my Revo sunglasses. Especially if I am facing something in direct sunlight with a bad glare, I really regret it...so one day I may have to drop the cash on it.
 
I've been looking for new shooting glasses for myself and my daughter. I was looking at ESS so this was timely information.

Do you happen to wear them over prescription glasses? My daughter wears glasses but is too young for contacts.
 
I have only the most limited experience there, as I started wearing contacts at all times except when sleeping due to a strangely shaped left eyeball. So this may or may not be useful...

I popped the glasses on that I wear when cleaning contacts and put the Suppressor frame on over them...these are mid-sized glasses with an oval lens profile that sit very close to my eye, and the frames do cover them fully without gaps. However, there is some contact with the two frames and with the amount I sweat when shooting I think it would not only uncomfortable, but also cause the rX lenses to fog. However, I'm a pretty big guy so it might work well for someone wearing smaller rx glasses, but I can't say for sure. For younger shooters, I think the Suppressor frames may be more comfortable than the Elite frames.

ESS' goggles might be worth checking out? I read numerous first-hand combat accounts of their goggles, that are made to go over rx eyewear, delivering the impact resistance and energy absorption that saves eyes (and more.) Where as the Crossbow almost eliminates all fogging of the Crossbow lenses, goggles are designed to also practically eliminate the fogging of rX lenses that may not have any anti-fog coating.

Have you looked at any of the offerings from Revision, Smith Optics, and Wiley? In my own reading about ESS, these brands are also frequently mentioned when it comes to reasonably-priced shooting glasses that are designed to provide protection that is as-good or better than some of the pricier options.

One final option may be having a rX insert or lens made for a pair of frames...quite a few have this capability, but I imagine it would be expensive and hard to justify if one's eyes hadn't stabled out. IIRC the Crossbow series is made to have a rX lens sit behind the poly lens. Most seem to have some sort of this capability, whether it be an insert to sit behind the protective lens, or a rX lens that is both the rX and impact lens.
 
Not as stylish as the ESS, but Champion makes Z87.1 Ballistic shooting glass for far less money. I've got a pair of yellow because it filters light for better vision. Google "eye sensitivity to colors."
 
cdk8 - I've been looking at the goggles too. The only issue is that my daughter is 9 so I don't think that operator-style goggles is really the right look or size for her. :) She wears a little pair of glasses so I want something that covers them. Smith is one company I haven't checked out yet.

dwjwin50 - I looked at Champion and their site doesn't list what real standard it meets. If it's "Z87.1" that spec is obsolete. The minimum I'd be happy with for investing in serious eyewear is Z87+ which is part of the ANSI Z87.1-2010 revised spec. Ideally, I want eye protection tested against MIL-PRF-31013, especially when I'm taking my daughter out to an active firing line.
 
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