February-March 2019 Pocket/CC Pistol 10 shots, 10 Yard Challenge

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Username: Noirfan
Score: 89 DA / 94 SA
Firearm: S&W 36
Ammunition: 158gr SWC, 4.5gr HP38
Date: 2/16/2019

So I shot two targets, scored 89 firing double action, then did much better with 94 firing single action which, I dunno, seems to be against the spirit of the thing with a DA snub:D. I will leave it up to the OP as to which one to count:

go with the best score so 94
 
Alright friends eye is healed and lab report came back benign and went out today to contribute two old school style pocket guns. I freaking love my CZ 50 probably about the best buy for the price gun I have gotten for $120.00. With Fiocchi is just shoots dead on when I do my part. First try I limp wristed a couple shots, then after concentrating more I did a 94 and I'm happy with that all things considered . With all the new CC guns out there and it being a .32 auto maybe not the first choice in CC pistols but I enjoy shooting it none the less. I used my style weaver stance (lol), 6 O' Clock hold on the target.
LK
score 94
CZ 50 .32 auto
ammo Fiocchi 73 gr FMJ

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That's a tricky one, I'm looking at it on this site link, frame wise I think it qualifies but it has a huge grip. I had said the Sig 225 is too big based on 1K saying he thought it was too big and it's his gun, let me ponder that one a bit and I'll make a decision.

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2016/05/11/kahr-arms-cw45/
Maybe for the mext challenge, specify that it has to be a true pocket pistol, not just a sub 4" barrel. While slightly more concealible than a g19 or m&pc owing to it's single stack design, the CW45 (and all other Kahr cw models except the CW380), are suited to iwb concealment, not pocket carry.

Maybe go with the IDPA "BUG" specs for April.
 
And I tried my grand dads 1962 Colt Detective special. With a 6 o clock hold it shoots low so to tried to get in the black I haplessly aimed toward the top of the black. I only had Geco 158 gr I really need to try different brand 158 gr sometime to see if impact area changes. I really lost a couple shots into the 6 ring but here is.

LK
score 80
1962 Colt Detective special
Geco 158 gr FMJ

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Maybe for the mext challenge, specify that it has to be a true pocket pistol, not just a sub 4" barrel. While slightly more concealible than a g19 or m&pc owing to it's single stack design, the CW45 (and all other Kahr cw models except the CW380), are suited to iwb concealment, not pocket carry.

Maybe go with the IDPA "BUG" specs for April.

Ok, I actually didn't know what "IDPA "BUG" specs" were until just looking at it. In the future we can use that as a guideline. I'm trying to be as fair minded as can for this, CC carry handguns and styles and makes have taken off a lot in recent years and I'm not knowledgeable to all of it or all of them. My Glock 23 fits in my coat pocket even in my pants pocket when loose fitting pants are worn and it certainly is small enough to be considered CC but then again some police and military outfits use it as a service pistol also so I drew the line there.

However a Makarov I believe falls into the "pocket pistol" catagory , based on mine holding it and so says wikipedia and it has a 3.6 inch barrel , so I say yes it is allowed in this challenge to your CW45, the grip is big but the frame and barrel size has made me decide yes, so submit your target!
 
Username: Mike J
Score:84
Kahr CM9
1/29/2019

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Username: Tony k
Score:72
Kahr CM9 147gr RMR HWMW/ 4.6 grains Silhouette
2/16/2019

Honestly shocked at the POI and poor group but thought I'd juxtapose my cm9 results to Mike J's.
 
Was out testing some reloads today so I thought I'd play the 10 yard challenge while I was at it. Top pic is the Baby Rock, next is the Shield 9mm and last is the Shield 45. I was very surprised at the 45's accuracy with 185gn XTPs. Usually the XTPs are more accurate at higher velocities but these averaged 685fps across the chrono.

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Nice shooting BC17 so help me here make sure I'm correct the baby rock I'm seeing 10x, 10,10,10,10,10,9,9,9,8 which would be 95, Shield 9mm I'm seeing 10x,10x,10,10,10,10,10,9,8,8 which would be 95, the shield .45 I'm seeing 10x,10x,10x,10x,10x.10,10,10,9,9 which would be 98.

What was your aiming point? Dang man I might have to a shield if they are like that lol.

My 9mm shield did well today too. Surprisingly, considering I never carry it and rarely shoot it.

Tony k
Score: 93
SW Shield 9mm (kryptek typhoon, lol)
147gr RMR HWMW/ 4.6 great silhouette
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I haven't shot yet, but I vote to keep things as they are. Basically, no everyday carry (on the job) service arms. If there is a ? let the mod adjudicate and post a list of the arms submitted and disqualified for future info. Keep it simple, that's the fun I want to participate in.
 
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Username: Tony k
Score:72
Kahr CM9 147gr RMR HWMW/ 4.6 grains Silhouette
2/16/2019

Honestly shocked at the POI and poor group but thought I'd juxtapose my cm9 results to Mike J's.

have you tried different ammo and grain? I know with my Beretta 92FS for example if I shoot 6 o clock hold it shoots low with 115gr but higher closer to the bulls if I use 147gr especially Fiocchi 147gr which they tend to load their handgun ammo on the hot side. Otherwise with 115gr I have to "drive the dot" center of bulls to get in the black center mass but that is not as accurate way to aim for target shooting compared to 6 o clock hold , at least for me.

Like 1K said though these handguns weren't made for target shooting but it is interesting to see what they do and more fun if you find out they do well when practicing at the range. The fact that this thread has inspired those to get out and shoot and dust off some guns makes it a success in of itself.
 
have you tried different ammo and grain? I know with my Beretta 92FS for example if I shoot 6 o clock hold it shoots low with 115gr but higher closer to the bulls if I use 147gr especially Fiocchi 147gr which they tend to load their handgun ammo on the hot side. Otherwise with 115gr I have to "drive the dot" center of bulls to get in the black center mass but that is not as accurate way to aim for target shooting compared to 6 o clock hold , at least for me.

Like 1K said though these handguns weren't made for target shooting but it is interesting to see what they do and more fun if you find out they do well when practicing at the range. The fact that this thread has inspired those to get out and shoot and dust off some guns makes it a success in of itself.

Ive got over 5k rounds of 115 grainers through this little guy. I made the switch to 147s this summer specifically so I could use this pistol in IDPA (not BUG class) and meet power factor specs. It seemed like a 6 o'clock hold was on the money for match distances. Guess I'll have to try something else in this gun.

Next month I'll try carry ammo in it to see if "we" do any better.
 
Still got a ways to go until the end of the match but some observations I'm seeing so far, the S&W Shield is popular and is capable of some fine shooting, the .45 ACP is getting some top scores compared to 9mm which actually surprises me some, and also there are some mighty fine shooting skills on THR.
 
These two targets are likely my final submissions unless I find a bag of money and buy some more small guns soon.

Smith model 10-5 2" barrel.
First target is Speer bevel base 148WC moderate crimp to the groove, 4.5 HP-38 (note do NOT use this load for traditional soft lead HBWC), score 96-1x, second is same bullet seated flush, light crimp over 3.1 grains HP-38, score 96-2x.
 

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I also thought this was interesting (not for submission into this challenge): 2" iron sight .38 versus a 5" optical sighted 9mm with a very nice Apex FSS sear and trigger. Magtech ball, 10 shots offhand from 10 yards.
 

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I also thought this was interesting (not for submission into this challenge): 2" iron sight .38 versus a 5" optical sighted 9mm with a very nice Apex FSS sear and trigger. Magtech ball, 10 shots offhand from 10 yards.
1k is doing some all around fine shooting, and he's really got his handgun loads dialed in. Bravo!
 
Today I shot my SR9c 9mm for score. In the spirit of ccw competition, I used my compact 10rd magazines and not the 15rd extended mag.
Perhaps you will see why I brag on this pistol. I walked out back, posted three THR targets and soon was holding three targets. 85-2x; 90-2x; and this 92.
It has always been a good shooter, and I'm no pistolero.
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And another close up of the bull. There is a cloverleaf that is difficult to see. My targets were very ragged with these FMJs.
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What was the ammo and where did you hold, if you don't mind?
Single Action was 125 xtp loaded to +p, and top of front sight where I wanted the bullets (1 flyer per cylinder was me anticipating). Double action were 158 grain semi wadcutters (from a Lyman mold) with 2.9 grains of clays top of the front sight below bottom center of the black. Didn't try to stage and went fairly quick (for me). But just random reloads I had. Picked up a used set of Ahrends boot grips for a round butt k frame that I like the feel of for the m10. I think the grips really make a difference for me, especially the ugly rubber delta ergo grips on my m60.
 
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