Feinstein reintroduces the AWB

[Pudge]

You need to read or listen to what these same people (Chuck and Nancy) said when the AWB was passed. This was their bill. They really and truly wanted to ban every gun in America and were not shy about saying it. The AWB was a compromise law since they dialed it back to get enough NRA sensitive lawmakers to sign on. Honestly the fact it did sunset is probably one of the most amazing modern political accomplishments. Reauthorization is the norm for most everything in DC. Nobody thought it was going ro be anything but renewed and possibly harsher.

I know what they say, and what they want. But the law accomplished nothing, when it sunsetted violent crime decreased. Society saw no benefit from the AWB, and that is what common sense gun laws give us, restrictions on the law abiding for no purpose other than a sound bite for the next campaign.

 

[Elkins45]

They couldn't pass a gun control law when they owned the House, Senate and the President's office. Harry Reid wouldn't even bring it to the senate floor. What makes you think it would pass now?

Gun control won't happen at the federal level. It will happen at the state level a little at a time. You only have to look at New York and Kalifornica to see it happening.

Chuck Schumer is not Harry Reid. Until BO managed to get his thumb on top of him, Reid was "A" rated by the NRA. He knew that to be elected in Nevada he had to be. Reid only flipped when he knew he was at the end of his career and didn't need to be elected again.

Schumer is drooling at the thought of bringing anti-gun bills to the floor.

 

[John_R]

Pelosi is probably drooling like a rabid dog to get the House version ready. And the Commucrats control the House. What will Trump do? We know he's supported an AWB in the past...

 

[hso]

The politicians are not the prime movers in this. They merely respond to what their voters say they want.

I have to disagree in part. Keep in mind that their desire to be reelected is what drives many of them and they adopt polarizing stances to have some reason to be in office. They certainly do adopt stances that some of their voters support, but they principally cater to money and power to get into and stay in office. It is very possible for outsiders to defeat long time experienced office holders (the shakeup in NY), but that's most likely in the complacent politicians falling prey to energetic opposition. These folks are not complacent and they want to stay in the game and possibly even advance (if not to the White House, at least to power positions in the party). So, any "red meat" "red flag" stance to create an emotional response will be used to gain a seat or keep it will be used.

 

[kidneyboy]

Chuck Schumer is not Harry Reid. Until BO managed to get his thumb on top of him, Reid was "A" rated by the NRA. He knew that to be elected in Nevada he had to be. Reid only flipped when he knew he was at the end of his career and didn't need to be elected again.

Schumer is drooling at the thought of bringing anti-gun bills to the floor.

The senate majority leader brings proposed legislation to the floor. Schumer is not the majority leader, Mitch McConnel (R) is.

 

[illinoisburt]

I know what they say, and what they want. But the law accomplished nothing, when it sunsetted violent crime decreased. Society saw no benefit from the AWB, and that is what common sense gun laws give us, restrictions on the law abiding for no purpose other than a sound bite for the next campaign.

I can assure you these gun laws are for more than just sound bites. Looking at the coasts, yes there is a regular drumbeat of new laws proposed and enacted every year that flow with elections. But that does not mean its done just for media attention. It's not about crime. That's a convenient talking point. These people really and truly want average Joe disarmed. For that matter most of them want hunting banned, too.

 

[kidneyboy]

The politicians are not the prime movers in this. They merely respond to what their voters say they want.

Washington does NOT look at what the voters want. This outlook is naive at best. You only need to look at the passing of various idiotic laws pandering to special interests to see this.

 

[Jim Watson]

The senate majority leader brings proposed legislation to the floor. Schumer is not the majority leader, Mitch McConnel (R) is.

This does not reassure me. The Republicans are ever ready to roll over like a whipped dog and go along to get along in the name of "bipartisanship."

 

[dh1633pm]

So what is unusual about something she does every year. Stick a fork in it, this thread is cooked.

 

[Tommygunn]

So what is unusual about something she does every year. Stick a fork in it, this thread is cooked.

I sorta get your point .... OTOH republican perfidy motivates me to keep my eyes open ......




..... and buy more ammo.....

 

[boom boom]

This does not reassure me. The Republicans are ever ready to roll over like a whipped dog and go along to get along in the name of "bipartisanship."

That is because the corporate and wealthy donors to a lot of GOP senators either do not care or are actively hostile to the Bill of Rights in general and the 2A in particular. For example, notice the financial industry continuing operation chokepoint despite it being formally revoked by the Trump administration. Thus, GOP members of Congress are constantly torn between those sweet donor dollars and voters back home. The inducement of a lucrative career as an influence peddler/lobbyist offered by those same donors often affects their voting behavior as well, especially if they are going to retire anyway or face a race that they might not win.

The ironic thing is that the Dem voters have more or less made peace with their corporate and wealthy donor class for now as the donor class is willing to indulge the cultural (not economic) warfare engaged upon by the left on the right. Those voters on the right are not willing to do so with the GOP class of donors on social and cultural issues but do so for now on economic issues such as taxation. Voter support or lack thereof for the 2A has become largely part of the culture wars like abortion rather than as a stand alone constitutional issue. I suspect that most of our elites in business, entertainment, culture, and politics fear the common people and have no problem with them being disarmed which doesn't affect the political class (police protection) or other elites (bodyguards and secure communities).

 

[GEM]

This is all posturing and fund raising.
Cornyn reintroduced reciprocity with no change of passage Send a check.
Feinstein reintroduces this with no chance of passage. Send a check.

What else is new?

 

[Garandimal]

“Americans across the nation are asking Congress to reinstate the federal ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. If we’re going to put a stop to mass shootings and protect our children, we need to get these weapons of war off our streets.”
- Democrat National Socialist Commissar Dianne Feinstein -





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[P5 Guy]

Those bills are so old they had to drag a Windows95 machine over from the Smithsonian to run the WordPerfect file to printer.

 

[Elkins45]

The senate majority leader brings proposed legislation to the floor. Schumer is not the majority leader, Mitch McConnel (R) is.

I was responding to the point that Democrats couldn't pass it when they held both chambers. They couldn't pass it because Reid didn't want it passed. That won't be the case the next time they hold both chambers.

 

[paulsj]

Literally nothing new. They push the same bills every year since the 1990s. They just get more airtime at a crisis or when the media wants to change subjects.

It is very effective way of preventing any legislation that would help working people attain better standard of living. This is done by introducing bills about gun control........ taking up time with bs investigations like the one regarding Russian medling in US elections. The fight about useless f border wall is another. All they have to do is fine and or jail those that hire illegal aliens and the problem would go away.

 

[JN01]

If it ever comes up for debate, amendments should be offered to eliminate the exemptions for law enforcement. Since they are "weapons of war," the only purpose of which is to mow down masses of people, cops shouldn't have any more use for them than the average citizen. See how much support big city police chiefs give to the bill after that.

 

[GEM]

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