PcolaDawg
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GREAT updates. Keep 'em coming. I've got my fingers crossed.
FL Carry Reform Bill in Committee needs YOUR HELP NOW!
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sarduy
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is there a link for the broadcast?
WhiteMikeCN
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Today is a good day..... Hopefully!
EnderWiggin
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Did the judiciary committee just change the bill from an open carry bill to a "allow the inadvertent display of a concealed firearm" bill?!?!
WhiteMikeCN
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not from what I am reading....
EnderWiggin
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This site shows a Judiciary substitution:
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=44867
"It shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a rude, angry, or threatening manner."
EDIT: You can also look under the amendments tab on this site: http://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0234
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=44867
"It shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a rude, angry, or threatening manner."
EDIT: You can also look under the amendments tab on this site: http://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0234
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WhiteMikeCN
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Here is the text
III. Effect of Proposed Changes:
The bill provides that a person who holds a valid concealed weapon or firearm license, issued by the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Affairs (DACS) under s. 790.06, F.S., may carry a weapon or firearm openly.
Also, the bill inserts a provision in s. 790.06(12), F.S., that specifically protects a licensed person from being prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.
A person who carries a weapon or firearm into one of the prohibited locations set forth in subsection (12) of s. 790.06, F.S., or a person who prohibits a licensee from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes, commits a second degree misdemeanor if they do so knowingly and willfully under the provisions of the bill.
The bill also authorizes the DACS to take fingerprints from a license-applicant for inclusion with the application packet for a concealed weapon or firearm license. This provides the applicant with an additional place to have his or her prints taken if necessary.
Section 790.28, F.S., is repealed by the bill. It is the provision that limits Florida residents to the purchase of rifles and shotguns in contiguous states. Section 790.065, F.S., is amended to clarify
37 Pub. L. No. 99-308.
38 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(3) (1986). See David T. Hardy, The Firearms Owners’ Protection Act: A Historical and Legal Perspective, 17 CUMB. L. REV. 585, 633-34 (1986/1987).
39 18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1).
BILL: CS/SB 234 Page 10
that a licensed dealer’s shotgun or rifle sale to a Florida resident in another state is subject only to the federal law and the law of the state wherein the transfer is made.
The bill takes effect upon becoming a law.
III. Effect of Proposed Changes:
The bill provides that a person who holds a valid concealed weapon or firearm license, issued by the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Affairs (DACS) under s. 790.06, F.S., may carry a weapon or firearm openly.
Also, the bill inserts a provision in s. 790.06(12), F.S., that specifically protects a licensed person from being prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.
A person who carries a weapon or firearm into one of the prohibited locations set forth in subsection (12) of s. 790.06, F.S., or a person who prohibits a licensee from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes, commits a second degree misdemeanor if they do so knowingly and willfully under the provisions of the bill.
The bill also authorizes the DACS to take fingerprints from a license-applicant for inclusion with the application packet for a concealed weapon or firearm license. This provides the applicant with an additional place to have his or her prints taken if necessary.
Section 790.28, F.S., is repealed by the bill. It is the provision that limits Florida residents to the purchase of rifles and shotguns in contiguous states. Section 790.065, F.S., is amended to clarify
37 Pub. L. No. 99-308.
38 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(3) (1986). See David T. Hardy, The Firearms Owners’ Protection Act: A Historical and Legal Perspective, 17 CUMB. L. REV. 585, 633-34 (1986/1987).
39 18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1).
BILL: CS/SB 234 Page 10
that a licensed dealer’s shotgun or rifle sale to a Florida resident in another state is subject only to the federal law and the law of the state wherein the transfer is made.
The bill takes effect upon becoming a law.
Enderwiggin, that language is found in an amendment that was later withdrawn. The text of the bill as we know it remains unchanged and still explicitly provides for open carry.
UPDATE:
Senate Bill 234 passed the Judiciary Committee today 4-3, mostly along party lines with the exception of Ellyn Bogdanoff R-District 25, voting NEA. The bill is scheduled for a vote in the Rules Committee this Friday at 9:15 AM.
If/When this bill passes the Rules Committee, the next step is a vote on the Senate floor. We are getting there!
UPDATE:
Senate Bill 234 passed the Judiciary Committee today 4-3, mostly along party lines with the exception of Ellyn Bogdanoff R-District 25, voting NEA. The bill is scheduled for a vote in the Rules Committee this Friday at 9:15 AM.
If/When this bill passes the Rules Committee, the next step is a vote on the Senate floor. We are getting there!
EnderWiggin
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So what are the chances of the Senate passing it?
Well, the Senate is divided 28 Republican, 12 Democrat. This will not be a strictly party line vote, but my guess is the chances are pretty good.
For it not to pass, the Democrats would have to unanimously oppose this bill, and 9 Republicans would also have to oppose it. Of course, if any Democrats support the bill, that many more Republicans would have to oppose it. So, though pure speculation, my guess is we have a decent chance.
For it not to pass, the Democrats would have to unanimously oppose this bill, and 9 Republicans would also have to oppose it. Of course, if any Democrats support the bill, that many more Republicans would have to oppose it. So, though pure speculation, my guess is we have a decent chance.
sarduy
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for the love of god and the 2nd amendment , i hope it passes
TomKat
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the senate website says 234 is on it's second reading... Does anyone have any idea when the vote will actually take place? and also when the accompanying HB517 will be voted on as well? I'm trying to pin down the date.
Ed N.
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Email sent to Senator Alexander.
dayid
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http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0234
Click "Vote History"
Then the link there to see the YEA/NAY
Click "Vote History"
Then the link there to see the YEA/NAY
Ed N.
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Why would you say that? He's vice-chair of the rules committee, and he voted "Yea" there.
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