Florida SB-344 and SB300 tomorrow

[Red Wind]

^True. We need pure OC again to end this nonsense.

 

[Frank Ettin]

There's an open discussion in Activism. One discussion is enough. Merging this one with the Activism thread.

 

[Red Wind]

Here is an update on the 3 Florida Senate Committee approved gun bills.

See the article:

All three measures face further committee approval before reaching the senate floor.

 

[Red Wind]

Update on SB 300, Open Carry. A Pinellas County Florida Sheriff (St.Petersburg), opposes OC with questionable information as we see here.

Below is an article just posted on the Sarasota Herald-Tribune website that exposes the misinformation Sheriff Gaultieri gave in his Palm Beach Post interview (the article also contains a link to that interview). You should read both.

http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtri...sheriff-fights-open-carry-bill-with-bad-info/

 

[flphotog]

That aspect has been already handled

Not really, some SA's are still prosecuting over accidental exposure if it goes beyond their idea of what "brief" means. And yes they are getting away with it.

 

[oneounceload]

Haven't seen or heard of any such incidents here; not even in liberal Alachua county

 

[Red Wind]

^ I have not either in a much more conservative Monroe County. Still ,the best bet is the one that grants the 2nd.

 

[Dan Forrester]

Looks like these still have a long way to go. First through the Judiciary Committee and then through the Rules Committee and then they need to be voted on and signed by the Governor. The remainder of these committees are overwhelmingly Republican as well as the senate. Of course there is also the State House of Representatives versions of these bills too and they will have their own process so its still a long way from happening. But getting this through the state senate is from my limited understanding of the political process the biggest hurdle.

Yes Red Wind I'm very happy about this! And I'm no longer in college and don't plan to open cary but welcome the liberalization of our states laws. My wife heads the Chemistry Dept at a mid size Florida University (probably should have put that in my letter) and will like the additional options too. It will be interesting to get reports from her on what happens through the university system as this progresses and hopefully passes.

Difficult to think of Monroe County of being more conservative than Alachua County. Although Ive been accused of being pretty liberal myself so my definition might be different.

Frank Ettin: Did I post this in the correct sub forum?

Thanks, Dan

 

[hatt]

We thought it had been, the wording of the 2011 law protecting unintentional exposure not strong enough for some jurisdictions in fl, prosecutions continues, one man convicted has gotten to the Florida supreme court.


https://www.floridacarry.org/litigation/21-flcourts/70-norman-v-state-2

It wasn't difficult to see back in 2011 that the "fix" was total nonsense. It did absolutely nothing since everything was up to officer interpretation. Most LEO weren't going to arrest someone because their shirt was blow up by the wind. Those the would were still going to arrest.

 

[hatt]

Haven't seen or heard of any such incidents here; not even in liberal Alachua county

Do you know how to use google? If you do you can find examples.

 

[oneounceload]

Really? Maybe you can post some links since you say they are readily available. You make the statement, provide the link

 

[hatt]

Really? Maybe you can post some links since you say they are readily available. You make the statement, provide the link

Here's a link. Now apologize for your ignorance.


http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/Concealed-Carry-Arrest-188752381.html

 

[Red Wind]

Difficult to think of Monroe County of being more conservative than Alachua County. Although Ive been accused of being pretty liberal myself so my definition might be different.

Dan, here we can see the voting stats for all 67 Florida counties.

Alachua has 30,00 more Democrats than Republicans.
Monroe has about 1500 more Republicans than Democrats.

It is hard to believe.

 

[RavenTai]

Another post 2011 prosecution for brief open carry, this one was police induced

https://www.floridacarry.org/litigation/21-flcourts/85-state-v-mora

 

[hatt]

The arrest of the Koran burning pastor was another example. I wouldn't be surprised of accidental exposure arrests were the same or went up after that foolishness passed in 2011.

 

[Red Wind]

Campus Carry Measure (HB4001) advances in the Florida House.

It passed by a vote of 10-3.

 

[oneounceload]

You mean a House committee? There are more than 13 members of the FL House

 

[Red Wind]

You mean a House committee?

Yes. A House Sub Committee on Higher Education. Click on the underlined link to the article in my post # 41.

 

[oneounceload]

And from there it goes where before a general vote? A Senate committee?

 

[Red Wind]

If you read the entire 3 page article, you can see that the proposal has a long way to go:

Still, the fate of the bill spearheaded by Rep. Greg Steube, R-Sarasota, likely remains with the Senate, where an identical measure (SB 68) must get through its next scheduled stop at the Senate Judiciary Committee. The bills are filed for the 2016 legislative session, which starts in January. Committees are taking up bills in advance of the session.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Miguel Diaz de la Portilla, R-Miami, said Tuesday no decision has been made about whether to bring up the campus-carry bill, adding the measure won't be on the agenda for the committee's next meeting.

A similar measure died during the 2015 session after not getting through the Judiciary Committee.

 

[oneounceload]

After the recent spate of school problems, and the fact the head of that committee is from the high crime area of Miami, it might be a hard sell.

 

[Red Wind]

NRA-ILA Message

Florida HB-163 Bill for Open Carry (for permit holders) is in the next House Justice Appropriations Committee on Wednesday,November 18 at 1 PM.

URGENT: CS/HB-163 Open Carry by Rep. Matt Gaetz is on the agenda for the House Justice Appropriations Committee on Wednesday, November 18 at 1:00pm.

HB-163 is a bill to allow persons with a Concealed Weapons & Firearms License to carry firearms concealed or openly.

It will prevent CW license holders from being charged with the crime of violating the "Open Carry" law because a concealed firearm, being legally carried, accidentally or inadvertently becomes visible to the sight of another person.

 

[Dan Forrester]

Thank you for the update Red Wind!

Get those emails out every one!

Dan

 

[Red Wind]

Thank you, Dan. No problem. I always will if still breathing!

 

[Dan Forrester]

live feed:

http://thefloridachannel.org

Brian Pitts is on there now. I completely forgot about that guy.

Oh well. I need to go to costco. If anyone watches give us an update.

Thanks, Dan