Foxnews Alert: Gunman on VA Tech campus

[george29]

If this guy bought his guns legally, we are in trouble, but then again, why were the serial numbers files off? Maybe the good news will be that they were stolen and he was prohibitted from buying a gun legally, so the argument goes that once again, only the lawabiding abide by laws, criminals are not affected by laws, time will tell.

On a different note, here are two quotes from msnbc, right next to each other, it shows how these simpleton liberals can't think for themselves anymore, 3 cheers for the Nanny State.

“At first, I thought it was joke,” said O’Dell, who was shot in an arm. “You don’t really think of a gunman coming on campus and shooting people.”

Until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard plowed his pickup truck into a Luby’s Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.

Get it? Both placed could have ended differently if CCW was allowed, VT should have known better.

Mods, is this too harsh a reality that needs to be deleted?

 

[TexasP226]

There is an excellent video up on Foxnews.com. It aired during Greta's "On the Record" show. The individual is a weapons expert and calls the gun a "tool" and says the gun has no bias and does not act on its own. He shows a USP to demonstrate what a 9mm looks like and a Browning for the .22. Good video, and a good man to have on our side.

go to www.foxnews.com and it is currently the featured video on the top right hand side of the website.

 

[Tag]

ABC has been on the 'Gun' angle for the last twenty minutes.

GUN CONTROL is the catch-phrase . . .

This ones gonna hurt i'm afraid :banghead:

 

[DiggityBiggity]

ABC has been on the 'Gun' angle for the last twenty minutes.

GUN CONTROL is the catch-phrase . . .

This ones gonna hurt i'm afraid

Designed this way???

http://infowars.com/articles/us/va_tech_massacre_another_gov_black_op.htm

 

[CK]

If somebody or two had the means to protect themselves and others by shooting back.......

 

[GlowinPontiac]

then this probably would never have gotten as far.

 

[Tag]

Too many sheep and no dogs to be found . . .

 

[unixguy]

http:// abcnews.go.com/US/BeSeenBeHeard/popup?id=3046132

I was talking to my wife about this poll with my 12 yr old daughter (who has been shootnig with me, but usually doesn't take me up on offers to join me) in the vehicle, and when I described this poll her (my daughter's) response was "That's stupid. If they pass more gun control laws that's just going to lead to more things like that happening."

WHY is it that my 12 yr old understands this, but the media and the politicians can't see that?

BTW, the poll results at this time:
Do you think this incident is a reason to pass stricter gun control legislation?

No. Violent shootings are isolated incidents and it's irresponsible to link them to gun control.
33,693
Yes. This shows the violence that can occur when someone has access to handguns.
13,903
I'm not sure. I need more information.
1,140
Total Vote: 48,736

 

[atblis]

Tech Emails

at 9:26AM

A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating.

The university community is urged to be cautious and are asked to contact Virginia Tech Police if you observe anything suspicious or with information on the case. Contact Virginia Tech Police at 231-6411

Stay attuned to the www.vt.edu. We will post as soon as we have more information.

at 9:50AM

A gunman is loose on campus. Stay in buildings until further notice. Stay away from all windows

at 10:16AM

Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where there are, lock their doors and stay away from windows. Persons off campus are asked not to come to campus.

at 10:52AM

In addition to an earlier shooting today in West Ambler Johnston, there has been a multiple shooting with multiple victims in Norris Hall.

Police and EMS are on the scene.

Police have one shooter in custody and as part of routine police procedure, they continue to search for a second shooter.

All people in university buildings are required to stay inside until further notice.

All entrances to campus are closed.

 

[Chad]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...of_federa.html

Here it comes.

It is, at least, good to see that the comments are overwhelmingly, almost 100%, against the article.

 

[DiggityBiggity]

It is, at least, good to see that the comments are overwhelmingly, almost 100%, against the article.

Yeah... I read through about 30 of them and only found one that was anti-gun. Then I added my own. However, I'm sure ABC will find the ONE that is anti-gun, and use that on their television show.

 

[RNB65]

I'm really amazed that that name of the shooter hasn't been leaked to the media. The cops know who the guy is. You'd think the Roanoke Times would have a source in the VTPD that would leak the name. You know the RT would love to get a scoop on the national papers and print the guy's identity first. Jeez, whatever happened to good old fashion confidential source journalism???

 

[cbsbyte]

Let's try to refrain from blaming the victims for their deaths. It is very disrespectful and uncalled for at anytime. Try to imagine what their families are feeling at this moment then imagine your own love one gunned down by a crazed killer. I know its human nature to try and find an escape goat in situations like this, but lets cool our jets until all the info available about this travesty.

 

[cngerms]

Let's try to refrain from blaming the victims for their deaths. It is very disrespectful and uncalled for at anytime. Try to imagine what their families are feeling at this moment then imagine your own love one gunned down by a crazed killer. I know its human nature to try and find an escape goat in situations like this, but lets cool our jets until all the info available about this travesty.

OK, this is getting tiresome. This isn't about blaming anyone!! :banghead: This reminds me of when libs cry, "Oh, let's not be judgemental." The VA Tech community has a right to a whole lot of righteous indignation right now. They've witnessed the CYA spin in the pressers today.

It is about accountability in every sense of the word. A part of discovering what went wrong often requires discussing WHO went wrong and why. How can a successful society, company, or organization disregard accountability and survive? They can't! My employer would surely fire me if I enacted policies that contributed to someone's death or injury. They would, also, fire me for FAILING to enact sensible policies that could have prevented deaths. VT's administration disarmed their students and faculty members and helped make them victims. This is fact revealed in their security policy. It is not speculation to be debunked as news filters in. It's already there.

 

[BobTheTomato]

I liked it a whole lot more when we were known for Mike Vick and Hokie Football.

 

[JohnBT]

Amen to that.

John

 

[Fish Miner]

Universities are already a pressure cooker for the students- even as a gun owner I do not want them to be on campus- I work at a university with almost 50K students, and with all the drinking, drugs, relationships, studies and the experience of being out on your own for the first time, the last thing needed are guns on people. Could a CCW on scene help in this situation? maybe, but chances are the shooting would have still happened, and then you may have a crossfire situation.

this is a freak accident, don't think it will become routine, but the last thing I would want is any academic inst. to become anything less then a totally free and open community.

Thoughts to the families who have lost...

 

[ojibweindian]

...the last thing needed are guns on people. Could a CCW on scene help in this situation? maybe, but chances are the shooting would have still happened, and then you may have a crossfire situation.

Cross fire situation? You can't be serious. I'd rather be caught in a cross fire, fighting back against a whack-job, than be slaughtered like cattle.

 

[ilbob]

After the shooter killed himself, they burst into the various closed rooms and marched everyone out with their hands up, threatening to kill anyone who didn't comply.

It does seem like the basic police response to any kind of violent incident is to wait till it is over and then go in and terrorize the survivors.

I'm pretty sure that is not the intent though.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Universities are already a pressure cooker for the students- even as a gun owner I do not want them to be on campus- I work at a university with almost 50K students, and with all the drinking, drugs, relationships, studies and the experience of being out on your own for the first time, the last thing needed are guns on people. Could a CCW on scene help in this situation? maybe, but chances are the shooting would have still happened, and then you may have a crossfire situation.

There are responsible students and irresponsible students, just like out in the "real world"

I spent 4 years at college without touching alcohol or drugs. I didn't meltdown from my course load or stress, and I went to the shooting range on weekends.

I was an IPSC B class shooter during my last 2 years of college (1988-89). I'd finish my homework and spend an hour a night in front of the Dillon watching Miami Vice or Magnum PI. Yeah, the hard life of a college student. Can I go back?

Heck I wish I had as much time to shoot now as I did then.

but the last thing I would want is any academic inst. to become anything less then a totally free and open community.

Wouldn't a totally free and open community allow me to exercise ALL my Constitutional rights?

 

[ec-10]

this is a freak accident, don't think it will become routine, but the last thing I would want is any academic inst. to become anything less then a totally free and open community.

Premeditated murder is no accident.

 

[Deanimator]

Cross fire situation?

That was the insane argument against people on the LIRR defending themselves against Patrick Ferguson.

Apparently some people would prefer the CERTAINTY of being murdered by an assailant than the POSSIBILITY of being wounded by an armed citizen.

To such people I reply, in the words of Wednesday Addams in one of the Addams Family movies, "You'll ALWAYS be the victim."

 

[baz]

Overnight, with another 10K votes added to the abcnews poll, the tally is 69.5%/28.2% against linking the event to need for further gun control.

But of course, the NYT has already come out with an editorial calling for stronger gun control.

 

[ojibweindian]

Universities are already a pressure cooker for the students

When I was in college, I worked 50 hours a week at an in-patient psychiatric ward, had two children to take care of, and was handling an 18 hour load and maintaining a 3.8 GPA through my Junior year (computer science major). It really wasn't that tough, certainly not so bad that I felt an overwhelming, uncontrollable desire to murder people.

This bastard was most likely extremely narcisistic, having a huge sense of entitlement, and felt himself to be maligned by the ex-girlfriend, his teachers, and his fellow students. He was, most likely, overly indulged by his parents, and never disciplined.

The shooter wasn't stressed out, he was throwing one helluva temper tantrum. Too bad he didn't the beating he so richly deserved before murdering those people.

 

[gm]

Premeditated murder is no accident.

+100%,which begs the question who was he really?


Im also VERY curious why his full name hasnt been revealed.