Franklin Armory Does It Again!

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First, they brought us the Binary Trigger. Now, with the approval the of ATF Chief of Firearms Division, Franklin Armory will be releasing a NON NFA 11.5" AR with a standard buttstock. It can be purchased WITHOUT a tax stamp.

https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/201...on-line-looks-like-sbr-doesnt-need-tax-stamp/

The press release does not give details how Franklin Armory convinced the ATF to approve this. My guess it's based on an earlier letter the BATF released stating that a pistol with a minimum OAL of 26" is actually a "firearm" and legal to have a vertical foregrip. This development opens up a lot of exciting options for gun owners!
 
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Some speculation: it could be smoothbore, a pull on release trigger, or simply the wording of the regulations. It will debut at SHOT.

A lot of interest from folks who want to know the secret recipe to build their own, and what obstacles may exist. I suspect Franklin has some unique combination of parts or features which limit the average guy doing it. It sounds like a Brace killer, tho.
 
I am EXTREMELY interested to find the loophole they are "exploiting". Smoothbore is the only thing I can think of, and, if so, I will lose ALL interest in it.
 
I agree that a smoothbore barrel would be the only thing I could think they would be exploiting in the NFA. But if that were the case, wouldn't they just make a shorter barrel anyway? If using a smoothbore barrel is the work around for a SBR in the NFA, what stops them from a 7 or 8" barrel? I wonder if they are using a kind of rifling that doesn't count as rifling, like a new take on micro grooves that Marlin used.
 
I do not know how they are getting away with it but I personally have never had the predisposition to short AR barrels. I have 16, 18 and yes a 20.
 
Ooohhh... Ahhhh... Watching this thread...

What about a twisted oblong bore. I think there was a bolt action "rifle?" back at the beginning of the 20th century that used that.
 
As I posted on another forum, I looked at the link. I will withhold my opinion until I find out more. If it really is a smooth bore than I cannot see how it is not a Short Barrel Shotgun. If the barrel is rifled, then I cannot see how it is not a SBR.

I am interested because I would like a SBR to keep in my car. However, I cross state lines too often to get a registered SBR. I have looked at some of the pistol braces and I may go that way. So yes, I am interested to see how this one turns out.
 
A smooth bore is a shotgun....

The term “Shotgun” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each ...
 
Interesting, like many others have stated I'd like to get more info. We'll see more details at SHOT Show I'm sure.
 
Whatever they did to get around the NFA and the ATF I'm interested in it simply because this might set some sort of precedent.

Even it I don't end up being interested in buying this particular gun I might be interested in the second, third or fourth shorty with a stock that they or some other company in the firearms industry puts out
 
What about a twisted oblong bore. I think there was a bolt action "rifle?" back at the beginning of the 20th century that used that.
Internet jabber is suggesting this as a possibility, too. Something about some current Russian rifles utilizing oblong-twist bores as a workaround for some law that says Russians must use shotguns for a length of time before being deemed "proficient" enough to own a rifle, or some such. Have never heard of that myself, you know how the internet is, etc.
 
If they have found a way to stabilize the bullet, I would be interested. However, seeing as this will most likely be more expensive than the $1,800 rifles on their website, I don't see myself owning one anytime soon, with the other "workarounds" available. A pinned-and-welded 14.5" only takes up 3 more inches in the cabinet...
 
I was just reading the law on SBR, SBS, AOW ect... and even if it is smoothbore I don't see how this would be exempt. It can't be a an AOW because its not concealable and has a buttstock. The mossberg shockwave is a "pistol grip firearm" because its over 26" and no buttstock. If its smoothbore or oblong bore or whatever it should be a SBS because of the buttstock. I'm confused.
 
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