Glock 19 Gen4 report

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I took my Glock 19 Gen4 to the gun club yesterday to try some Federal Eagle 124gr rounds. I'm happy to report no malfunctions. I did get the occasional casings to the face though. I'm still waiting on the 043 spring from Glock. I'm glad there were no malfunctions like last week when I picked up the gun. I put about 150 rounds of 115gr WWB and Federal Champion and I had more FTE?FTF than I can count :(

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glad to hear you like it. i had to replace two bad extractors-one in a gen3 and the other in a gen4, to remedy erratic ejection and fte's. no big deal, a $13 part. :)

put in the new spring, and if that doesn't resolve it, you probably just need that new extractor.


glock's been putting out a ton of out spec extractors for a while now.
 
AN,

I've never done anything like that. How involved is it to change the extractor?
It is easy. You remove the rear plate (you push down on the striker sleeve to release it) and pull it off. Then empty out the slide parts out the back, and the extractor and the striker safety will fall out too. May need to push up on the safety plunger to drop the extractor out. Install in reverse, youtube if you can't figure it out.

I have several Glocks, but their recent performance has been inverse to their past performance. The ambi mag release on the SF G20 frame... Junk. The gen 4 (whatever is wrong with them)... Junk. None of this stuff ever should have made it out of R&D. It is like they just jotted it down on paper, and then took that paper to the manufacturing floor and said "here you go, the new Glocks".

After getting them to fix this last frame, and hearing all the problems about the gen 4 stuff, I've dropped Glock. I own as many as I ever will, and if I do get another, it will be a gen 3. At this point, I can't trust them to work. If Glock loses its reputation for reliability, it won't be any more different than an expensive Hi Point. And I bet right now you could probably expect better out of the box performance without contacting the company for repair parts.

Repair parts for what are essentially life safety devices. Life safety devices with known problems that have not ever had one recall. Am I the only one that sees a problem in this?

Oh yeah, and Glock is treating this like a recall, except without all the hassle to a big corporation that a recall entails, like contacting the purchaser and offering to pay the shipping fees etc. You have to ASK them for a shipping account, otherwise they are more than happy to let you pay the next day shipping fees through fedex.

Yep. Through with Glock. Liked 'em while they lasted, but they've really let me down in the last couple of years. If they don't get their act together, I don't see 'em sticking around much longer. Reliability is all they have (which is probably why they won't do a recall --they still have their reputation, abeit not deserved for their new junk).
 
Strykervet,

Thanks for your post. I am with you. I don't know how the Gen4 made it out of R&D either. I am still shocked of how many folks on the boards say they don't have any troubles. But, it is my fault...I went in my shop to buy some powder and with the "glock" reputation for reliability in mind, I bought it because I was so tempted by the LEO discount price ....I should have done my research.

As a reloader, i was about 98% sure the gun would function with the heavier bullets...but still slightly annoyed at getting pelted in the face by the occasional case.
 
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