Going with the savage scout rifle

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And I don't care one little bit that it doesn't quite meet Cooper's specs!:evil::D

I've had a couple days off between the end of one job and the start of a new, way better job, so yesterday I went to the closest bass pro to ogle some guns (I can get a 10 percent discount there).

I really liked the way it felt shouldered and the action is smooth. It comes with a peep sight, so I don't have to drop money on an optic right away. A number of people online complained about how the magazine goes in, but it seemed to just lock in when pushed.

I had briefly considered one of the Ruger minis, but for the price around here, I didn't want to let the luck of the draw dictate if I drew a 2 moa mini, or a 4 moa or more mini.

Now all I have to do is wait for a few gift cards to arrive in the mail, then pay the $25 California punishment fee, and then wait 10 days to pick up my rifle. I should be good to go by early October :confused:.

Gotta love California.
 
Oh yeah handloading makes it cheap, I wasn't sure about the 7.62x39 being available any more, those are some cool rifles that just fit well. I'm sure your gonna love it!
 
For cheap, Cabelas has the 12FV on sale for only 319.00, plus there is a 100.00 rebate...22-250, .223, .308, 6.5 creedmoor, and I believe 30-06. They did have free shipping, maybe still do, and another small discount if you get their credit card. My .308 cost under 250.00 as soon as I get the rebate...Sadly, I had just bought one in .223 for 419.00 and the rebate, total 319.00. 569.00 plus tax for both guns, 26 inch heavy varmint barrel, a decent looking jeweled bolt and the adjustable accu trigger. I dont feel too bad about it!

just saying,

Russellc
 
Glad I got the 7.62x39 when I had the chance, but that .308 should be a tack driver, and fun to shoot.
 
RussellC said:
For cheap, Cabelas has the 12FV on sale for only 319.00, plus there is a 100.00 rebate...22-250, .223, .308, 6.5 creedmoor, and I believe 30-06. They did have free shipping, maybe still do, and another small discount if you get their credit card. My .308 cost under 250.00 as soon as I get the rebate...Sadly, I had just bought one in .223 for 419.00 and the rebate, total 319.00. 569.00 plus tax for both guns, 26 inch heavy varmint barrel, a decent looking jeweled bolt and the adjustable accu trigger. I dont feel too bad about it!

just saying,

Russellc
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There's not an in-state Cabela's anywhere near me and all the lgs charge extortionate transfer fees around here. It's usually 75-100. There ends up being no savings if you have to have a gun shipped in.
 
I don't care one little bit that it doesn't quite meet Cooper's specs!
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Cooper would have highly endorsed the Savage rifle if he were still alive. Coopers specs were more of a rough guideline anyway. And on top of that even his ideal rifle evolved over the years and would have continued to evolve if he were still alive. A lot of people get too caught up with unnecessary details.
 
jmr40 said:
Cooper would have highly endorsed the Savage rifle if he were still alive. Coopers specs were more of a rough guideline anyway. And on top of that even his ideal rifle evolved over the years and would have continued to evolve if he were still alive. A lot of people get too caught up with unnecessary details.
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At the end of the day, I just really wanted a centerfire carbine with peep sights on it. There aren't a lot of out of the box options for that right now.
 
I have a Burris scope mounted on mine. It shoots about 1" groups at 100 yds with the scope and 2" with the irons. That's consistent with any NATO spec ammo I've used (US, Australian, Portuguese, Turkish, Lithuanian, and several more). I need to see what it'll do with premium ammo and work up a handload for it.
 
Jason_W said:
There's not an in-state Cabela's anywhere near me and all the lgs charge extortionate transfer fees around here. It's usually 75-100. There ends up being no savings if you have to have a gun shipped in.
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That blows... if you have gun shows ask around at the tables. I found a guy that lives about 4 blocks from my house that does FFL sales out of his house. 25 bucks. Even if I have 5 lowers sent, 25 bucks.

Russellc
 
The Granite Mountain is a truer scout, but the Savage is a cool gun and more affordable. Congrats and post pics when you get it!
 
Jason_W said:
There's not an in-state Cabela's anywhere near me and all the lgs charge extortionate transfer fees around here. It's usually 75-100. There ends up being no savings if you have to have a gun shipped in.
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Will Cabelas even ship to another non Cabelas FFL? Same issue here, no Cabelas.
 
Jason_W said:
then pay the $25 California punishment fee, and then wait 10 days to pick up my rifle. I should be good to go by early October :confused:.

Gotta love California.
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Well, might as well embrace the horror. Right. :D

Sounds like you are excited about it. Good luck with it. :)
 
did you get the model 11 scout or the model 10 scout 10fcm I think is called ,
both have peep sights , the 11 has the 10 round magazine , I have read that the model 10 fcm was discontinued but I see them still for sale
 
CraigC said:
You gonna scope it or just use the irons?
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Irons unless I have an opportunity to hunt.

When I was a kid, my first ever rifle was a Savage single shot .22 with a Lyman peep sight. I got scary good with it and by age 12 was regularly killing red squirrels off hand out to 50 yards. I've become rusty over the years and I'm looking forward to regaining some of those old skills. Me
 
I use a lot of scopes but am still hooked on iron sights. I'm thinking about seeing if I can get both irons and an optic on a Ruger American .450BM.
 
How can Granite Mountain make a better scout when I don't even see one on their site. I am sure they make a excellent action. The Savage is a fine rifle. I went with the Ruger with the composite stock. Liked it so much I got one for my son. I could have just as easily got the Savage.
 
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Cooper would have highly endorsed the Savage rifle if he were still alive.
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What Cooper actually said about the Savage Scout while he was alive differs:

"In the last rifle course we had four Savage scouts, which did not work out well. Curiously enough the owners of these rifles felt that they were being discriminated against − apparently by me. Well, I did not buy them their guns. …Homemade scouts are interesting, instructive and expensive. Some work better than others, but that is hardly a reason to complain to the management." Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 8, No. 8, page 49


"I have yet to see more than half a dozen rifles that have been properly converted into Scouts. However, I have seen in excess of two dozen `wannabe but have no idea what a Scout really is' rifles. I call these "abortion−Scouts." The several I have seen were cobbled together by people who have no idea of what it is they are trying to emulate. The overall results were so deplorable I was horrified to think that people might actually believe them to be Scouts. Two pet examples are the "Savage Scout" and "Brockman's Scouts." Thomas K. Graziano [quoted by Cooper] Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 8, No. 12, page 71


"I have written up the evolution of the scout concept on several occasions, and it seems to me that at this time we have in existence the pioneer scouts (mainly constructed here at Gunsite), the Steyr Scout, and the Savage Scout, which last is simply an economy version of the general idea. Personally I would not select the Rolls Royce as an example of "getting what you pay for." One can get a better car than a Rolls Royce for less money − depending upon what he means by "better" − but one cannot buy a better rifle than a Steyr Scout for less money. If you build your own, you spend more and get less." Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 7, No. 13, page 64

Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement to me.
 
natman said:
What Cooper actually said about the Savage Scout while he was alive differs:

"In the last rifle course we had four Savage scouts, which did not work out well. Curiously enough the owners of these rifles felt that they were being discriminated against − apparently by me. Well, I did not buy them their guns. …Homemade scouts are interesting, instructive and expensive. Some work better than others, but that is hardly a reason to complain to the management." Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 8, No. 8, page 49


"I have yet to see more than half a dozen rifles that have been properly converted into Scouts. However, I have seen in excess of two dozen `wannabe but have no idea what a Scout really is' rifles. I call these "abortion−Scouts." The several I have seen were cobbled together by people who have no idea of what it is they are trying to emulate. The overall results were so deplorable I was horrified to think that people might actually believe them to be Scouts. Two pet examples are the "Savage Scout" and "Brockman's Scouts." Thomas K. Graziano [quoted by Cooper] Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 8, No. 12, page 71


"I have written up the evolution of the scout concept on several occasions, and it seems to me that at this time we have in existence the pioneer scouts (mainly constructed here at Gunsite), the Steyr Scout, and the Savage Scout, which last is simply an economy version of the general idea. Personally I would not select the Rolls Royce as an example of "getting what you pay for." One can get a better car than a Rolls Royce for less money − depending upon what he means by "better" − but one cannot buy a better rifle than a Steyr Scout for less money. If you build your own, you spend more and get less." Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 7, No. 13, page 64

Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement to me.
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I'm cool with Cooper not being a Savage fan. The savage will suit my needs just as well as any Cooper approved scout. Again, the big draw for me was the sights.
 
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