They were probably targeted specifically--for money, jewelry, drugs, etc.. Not much will stop a determined crew but was there no alarm or camera system present?
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John Joseph
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A camera from across the street, plus a neighbor noticing the van parked in front.
And I am guessing that no one called the cops promptly as it can take some time for a neighbor to notice something.
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He was fast, real fast. Got caught though. The van was stolen.
Of course. Hope he stays put in a cell for awhile.
JFrank
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Jail to those guys is like a classroom for thieves, comparing notes and learning what not to do NEXT TIME.
Freaking ripoff rats.
whughett
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I haven’t read this entire blog so forgive if stepping on toes.
I have a Browning Pro Steel. Not sure what gage but the door is 1/4 inch thick with eight one inch diameter live bolts.Four into each door frame. Live means there independent of one another. Knocking or cutting the hinges off isn’t going to open it. Given time and a few cutting disks on a right angle grinder an intruder would likely get thru. The safe empty weighs 700 pounds. The crucial element is time, your average burglar is smash and grab. In and out, Bobs your Uncle. Granted this safe was $1000 back in the early 80’s
The house also has a SimplySafe alarm system. Not pushing SimpliSafe but for 3 or 4 hundred dollars and, like me 24.95 a month, one can have a monitored alarm system better than any safe. I get a text when the alarm is set, Unset or tripped. I also have low temp and water sensors.
A padlocked gym locker is probably safe when an alarm siren is screaming in the burglars ear.
I have a Browning Pro Steel. Not sure what gage but the door is 1/4 inch thick with eight one inch diameter live bolts.Four into each door frame. Live means there independent of one another. Knocking or cutting the hinges off isn’t going to open it. Given time and a few cutting disks on a right angle grinder an intruder would likely get thru. The safe empty weighs 700 pounds. The crucial element is time, your average burglar is smash and grab. In and out, Bobs your Uncle. Granted this safe was $1000 back in the early 80’s
The house also has a SimplySafe alarm system. Not pushing SimpliSafe but for 3 or 4 hundred dollars and, like me 24.95 a month, one can have a monitored alarm system better than any safe. I get a text when the alarm is set, Unset or tripped. I also have low temp and water sensors.
A padlocked gym locker is probably safe when an alarm siren is screaming in the burglars ear.
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My house was robbed once. This is exactly what it looked like when I came home that day and found the front door open. I had an old single shot 20ga and a bolt action 22LR at the time. Both were found by the burglar, neither were taken.
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As pointed out above, the trick is that "we" often have better tools than that near to hand.
Such is life.
Now, not all hoodlums know this; some percentage are adverse to hard work, too--which is about "our" only "edge" on this.
The term-of-art is "moat."
And, it's a very specific kind of fortification construction.
Best employed with either a rampart or glacis, so that the outer edge is significantly higher than the inside edge (at least 1m and 2m is better). The sloping rampart also limits observation of the true height of the outer wall to be scaled, so that attackers need a bunch of ladder sizes. You also want the moat to be an irregular width so that it cannot be breached with uniform fascines. Moat can also be "dry" just filled with foot traps and the like, or tanglefoot in a foot or so of water. (Helps to have a millrace nearby so that one has a handy body of water to divert.)
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"Safes" (RSC, Residential Security Containers, to be entirely accurate) have gotten a bit more spendy in the last few decades. This tracks reasonably well with inflation, though.
Right now, to stay under $1000, you are limited to the locking cabinets/lockers, and those get really competitive in the $350-500 price range. The heavier--literally, as in over 500#--RSC are all closer to $2000 as a ballpark, budgeting, figure.
Which is some cash to lay out.
But, if you have ten $500 firearms, you are spending 2 grand to protect 5 grand.
The heavier RSC offer more fire protection, but the risk of fire versus housebreaking varies widely by location. That's an individual assessment. Maybe the risk of fire is worth and extra $500 to go from 1200º to 1800º of "protection"--but, that's down to what the response time of the FD and how frequently houses burn down in your location.
It's really very individual. Kind of like how "armoring" a closet or spare room might be better. Maybe. Perhaps. YMMV
Right now, to stay under $1000, you are limited to the locking cabinets/lockers, and those get really competitive in the $350-500 price range. The heavier--literally, as in over 500#--RSC are all closer to $2000 as a ballpark, budgeting, figure.
Which is some cash to lay out.
But, if you have ten $500 firearms, you are spending 2 grand to protect 5 grand.
The heavier RSC offer more fire protection, but the risk of fire versus housebreaking varies widely by location. That's an individual assessment. Maybe the risk of fire is worth and extra $500 to go from 1200º to 1800º of "protection"--but, that's down to what the response time of the FD and how frequently houses burn down in your location.
It's really very individual. Kind of like how "armoring" a closet or spare room might be better. Maybe. Perhaps. YMMV
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